[Open-access] new open access initiative

Tue Jan 31 11:44:45 UTC 2012

If SPARC already offer certification then rather than splinter OA
certification we should get on board with their effort and see what we
can do to push it along.  We do NOT want to get into a
NetBSD-vs.-FreeBSD-vs.-OpenBSD situation here!

-- Mike.

On 31 January 2012 11:40, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Tom Olijhoek <tom.olijhoek at gmail.com>
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>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
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>> I don't see why we need to have the rest of the community involved from
>> the very beginning. Why couldn't we start with a small group and get
>> community support in the process? It would probably be better to not have
>> too many factions involved in the beginning since this would be more
>> difficult to manage ( this has been said before we started this mailing
>> list: keep it small for the moment).
>> If we seek collaboration with the originators of the BOAI (and I am all
>> for that to happen) we wouldn't challenge anybody, except for the people who
>> do not want "real" open access. And I would think that we want to challenge
>> them, that is one point of the whole exercise. If we don't get the
>> collaboration, "at least we have asked" (as I remember this has also been
>> said before in our group).
>> In my view a logical  first step in reclaiming the term Open Access is to
>> use it in the name of the new Initiative, especially if we want to start a
>> kind of certification with an OA-LOGO.
>> I cannot judge whether using the term Foundation would imply that we have
>> a big organisation. As far as I know you can start a Foundation with as few
>> as 3 people. I read in Wikipedia that the term does not carry legal clout at
>> least not in the UK. In  NL we would have to be registered. A foundation
>> Initiative though would not be much of a problem anyway, or am I wrong?
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> This all makes sense. I carry a lot of history and that probably distorts my
> judgment pessismistically. So everything here seems reasonable.
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> SPARC offer certification, though I don't get the impression it's as active
> as it should be. Maybe we should start with areas they don't cover.
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> Yes - in the UK it doesn't take much to set up a Foundation in the
> beginning. Getting support is probably more difficult. It will be quite a
> lot of work. Yes, ask the original members and see what happens. We aren't
> asking their permission - we are asking their support.
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> I'm happy to be part of this - probably a good idea if there are fresh
> drivers. There's more detail we need to work out
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> P.
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> Peter Murray-Rust
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