[Open-access] SCOAP3

Thu Jul 19 11:50:10 UTC 2012

Thank you Peter, that's a great help.

I'd certainly be interested in your idea - please let me know what details
you would need and I'll see what I can do.

From: peter.murray.rust at googlemail.com
[mailto:peter.murray.rust at googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Murray-Rust
Sent: 19 July 2012 12:22
To: Katie Foxall
Cc: open-access at lists.okfn.org
Subject: Re: [Open-access] SCOAP3

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Katie Foxall <katie at ecancer.org> wrote:

Hello all

I haven't posted before but have been following the discussions with much
interest and have founds the info and links provided by various people
really useful.  I run an open access cancer journal http://ecancer.org/ecms
which has no author fees - we are currently mainly supported by charity
funding but the journal has been growing at a great rate this year so I'm
looking into accessing any funding that might be out there to support open
access publishing.  The reality is that we will have to start charging
author fees at some point if we can't get more funding and we really don't
want to do that as providing a free service for the oncology community is
very important to us.

So does anyone know whether there is anything like SCOAP3 in the field of
medical publishing?

I don't think there is anything directly comparable - I would be happy to
post this on the GOAL open access list to gather ideas and to get some idea
of what the best estimate of break-even costs may be. 

IMO SCOAP3 works because of the following factors:not

* the sense of community  - there is a reasonably clear distinction between
whether you are an HEP person or 
* it's used to managing large funding and large projects.
* there is already a tradition of openness in physics (ArXiV). 

I had the fortune to be invited to CERN by Salvatore Mele - a major
influence in SCOAP3 while they were building the ATLAS (which found the
Higgs). He said something like "Last week we lowered 500 M Eur or equipment
down that hole. A journal will cost 10 million (IIRC). We know how to run
large projects". 

So I don't think the precise mechanism for cancer is there - but SCOAP3 has
proven the model can work and that makes new ideas much more tractable. 

I have an idea which I might follow offline if you have ideas of the costs.

P.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice anyone might be able to give me,

Katie Foxall

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Subject: [Open-access] SCOAP3

Not got so much press as the big announcements this week but this is a big
deal. Communities can just decide unilaterally to move to OA.

http://scoap3.org/news/news94.html
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