[Open-access] Elsevier 'sponsored article'

Fri Mar 2 08:59:12 UTC 2012

For those who don't have the link, a draft response that was started by the
open science working group is here
http://okfnpad.org/sciencewg-hargreaves
I'll also repost to that list.

Jenny

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting.  The notion of "freely available to all on Science
>> Direct only for all time" suggests (again) that they really haven't
>> thought this through, as it implies a commitment to keep SD going
>> *forever* -- something they are really not in a position to do.
>>
>> It would *great* if someone paid the $3000, put a copy of the PDF on
>> the open web, and then got a takedown notice.  Almost worth spending
>> the money just to provoke such a ludicrous scenario!
>>
>> Many other publishers are as bad as Elsevier (I deliberately use this
> language). We must get Ross Mounce's excellent survey formalized and
> published.
>
> Unfortunately I suspect they *have* thought this through and are doing
> whatever is possible to restrict the flow of scholarly information unless
> they control it.
>
> It is , of course, made much worse because academia, especially the
> libraries, has no interest in this problem. (I hope that's a disprovably
> false statement but I have seen no evidence).
>
> FWIW I am concentrating on our response to Hargreaves - there is an
> urgency and we should not now expect Jenny to have to pull this together.
> We need a volunteer to help me and others.
>
>
>> I'd like to post this information on SV-POW!, as a followup to these
>> posts:
>>
>> http://svpow.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/what-actually-is-elseviers-open-access-licence/
>>
>> http://svpow.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/what-have-we-learned-about-elseviers-open-access-licence/
>> Can you please put me in touch with Dr. Roberts?
>>
>> -- Mike,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 March 2012 01:33, Björn Brembs <b.brembs at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > some interesting information on the copyright
>> > transfer for Elsevier's 'sponsored articles':
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject
>> > ------------------------------ ---------------------------------
>> > Copyright on sponsored articles
>> >
>> >
>> > Discussion
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Response Via Email(Antoinette) - 01/03/2012 05.20 PM
>> >
>> > Dear Dr Roberts,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your e-mail.
>> >
>> > I can advise you to sign your copyright form as normal. Please choose
>> the
>> > option that most applies to you.
>> >
>> > If you choose to pay for open access, your paper will be freely
>> available
>> > to all on Science Direct only for all time.
>> >
>> > I hope this is of some help to you however if there is anything you are
>> > still not clear about, please do not hesitate to ask and please also
>> > provide me with your reference number or article title for me to check
>> this
>> > in our production tracking system.
>> >
>> > You may also find the following link of interest:
>> >
>> > http://support.elsevier.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/557
>> >
>> > If responding to this e-mail, please ensure that the reference number
>> > remains in the subject line.
>> >
>> > Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please visit our
>> > self-help site at: http://support.elsevier.com/. Here you will be able
>> to
>> > search for solutions on a range of topics, find answers to frequently
>> asked
>> > questions and learn more about EES via interactive tutorials. You will
>> also
>> > find our 24/7 support contact details should you need further assistance
>> > from one of our customer service representatives.
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely,
>> >
>> > Antoinette Duffy
>> >
>> > Elsevier Customer Support
>> >
>> > Copyright 2008 Elsevier Limited. All rights reserved.
>> > How are we doing? If you have any feedback on our customer service we
>> would
>> > be happy to receive your comments at customerfeedback at elsevier.com
>> >
>> > ...............................................................
>> > Customer By Email (David Roberts) - 22/02/2012 07.15 AM
>> >
>> > Dear sir/madam,
>> >
>> > If I pay for my article to be sponsored so that it is ‘available to
>> > non-subscribers’ on Elsevier’s ‘electronic platform', what copyright
>> > notice do I sign? Elsevier is giving the article away – that is to say
>> > I have paid for the costs associated with the article – does Elsevier
>> > still own the copyright, and, more importantly, is the file allowed to
>> > be hosted anywhere else? Or, to put it another way, what is the legal
>> > status of the published article, and what future-proofing is there to
>> > maintain that free access in perpetuity?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > David Roberts
>> > --
>> > Visiting Research Fellow
>> > School of Mathematical Sciences
>> > University of Adelaide
>> >
>> > ...............................................................
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Björn Brembs
>> > ---------------------------------------------
>> > http://brembs.net
>> > Neurobiology
>> > Freie Universität Berlin
>> > Germany
>> >
>> >
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