[Open-access] Elsevier 'sponsored article'

Fri Mar 2 07:28:19 UTC 2012

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:

> Very interesting.  The notion of "freely available to all on Science
> Direct only for all time" suggests (again) that they really haven't
> thought this through, as it implies a commitment to keep SD going
> *forever* -- something they are really not in a position to do.
>
> It would *great* if someone paid the $3000, put a copy of the PDF on
> the open web, and then got a takedown notice.  Almost worth spending
> the money just to provoke such a ludicrous scenario!
>
> Many other publishers are as bad as Elsevier (I deliberately use this
language). We must get Ross Mounce's excellent survey formalized and
published.

Unfortunately I suspect they *have* thought this through and are doing
whatever is possible to restrict the flow of scholarly information unless
they control it.

It is , of course, made much worse because academia, especially the
libraries, has no interest in this problem. (I hope that's a disprovably
false statement but I have seen no evidence).

FWIW I am concentrating on our response to Hargreaves - there is an urgency
and we should not now expect Jenny to have to pull this together. We need a
volunteer to help me and others.

> I'd like to post this information on SV-POW!, as a followup to these posts:
>
> http://svpow.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/what-actually-is-elseviers-open-access-licence/
>
> http://svpow.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/what-have-we-learned-about-elseviers-open-access-licence/
> Can you please put me in touch with Dr. Roberts?
>
> -- Mike,
>
>
>
> On 2 March 2012 01:33, Björn Brembs <b.brembs at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > some interesting information on the copyright
> > transfer for Elsevier's 'sponsored articles':
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > ------------------------------ ---------------------------------
> > Copyright on sponsored articles
> >
> >
> > Discussion
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > Response Via Email(Antoinette) - 01/03/2012 05.20 PM
> >
> > Dear Dr Roberts,
> >
> > Thank you for your e-mail.
> >
> > I can advise you to sign your copyright form as normal. Please choose the
> > option that most applies to you.
> >
> > If you choose to pay for open access, your paper will be freely available
> > to all on Science Direct only for all time.
> >
> > I hope this is of some help to you however if there is anything you are
> > still not clear about, please do not hesitate to ask and please also
> > provide me with your reference number or article title for me to check
> this
> > in our production tracking system.
> >
> > You may also find the following link of interest:
> >
> > http://support.elsevier.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/557
> >
> > If responding to this e-mail, please ensure that the reference number
> > remains in the subject line.
> >
> > Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please visit our
> > self-help site at: http://support.elsevier.com/. Here you will be able
> to
> > search for solutions on a range of topics, find answers to frequently
> asked
> > questions and learn more about EES via interactive tutorials. You will
> also
> > find our 24/7 support contact details should you need further assistance
> > from one of our customer service representatives.
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Antoinette Duffy
> >
> > Elsevier Customer Support
> >
> > Copyright 2008 Elsevier Limited. All rights reserved.
> > How are we doing? If you have any feedback on our customer service we
> would
> > be happy to receive your comments at customerfeedback at elsevier.com
> >
> > ...............................................................
> > Customer By Email (David Roberts) - 22/02/2012 07.15 AM
> >
> > Dear sir/madam,
> >
> > If I pay for my article to be sponsored so that it is ‘available to
> > non-subscribers’ on Elsevier’s ‘electronic platform', what copyright
> > notice do I sign? Elsevier is giving the article away – that is to say
> > I have paid for the costs associated with the article – does Elsevier
> > still own the copyright, and, more importantly, is the file allowed to
> > be hosted anywhere else? Or, to put it another way, what is the legal
> > status of the published article, and what future-proofing is there to
> > maintain that free access in perpetuity?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David Roberts
> > --
> > Visiting Research Fellow
> > School of Mathematical Sciences
> > University of Adelaide
> >
> > ...............................................................
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Björn Brembs
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > http://brembs.net
> > Neurobiology
> > Freie Universität Berlin
> > Germany
> >
> >
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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