[Open-access] [open-science] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers

Tue May 6 21:27:44 UTC 2014

Dear Esther

Thanks for the link, it is very useful and shows that fair use has many
interpretations.
Is the 'fair renumeration'  amount that is paid in the NL publicly
available in a doc from the ministry, the VSNU  or otherwise? Or is it a
undisclosed deal?

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 AM, E. Hoorn <E.Hoorn at rug.nl> wrote:

>  Wouter, Jeroen,
>
> There is a WIPO study on fair use and limitations for educational use,
> which gives an overview of the regulation worldwide.
>
> Study on Copyright Limitations and Exceptions for Educational Activities
> in North America, Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia and Israel Raquel
> Xalabarder, Professor of Law, Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC),
> Barcelona, Spain
> http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=130393
> For the Netherlands there is a limitation on copyright for educational use
> in the Dutch Copyright Act. But the downside is that one of the conditions
> is that a fair remuneration is paid. We recently agreed on a new national
> deal. Over the coming years the amount decreases, because we expect that
> there will be more Open Access material available. There will be a working
> group of publishers and university representatives, with the task -amongst
> others- to monitor this.
>
> Esther
>
>
> On 3-5-2014 22:17, Gerritsma, Wouter wrote:
>
> Jeroen, Egon
>
> But, I don't think you are allowed to distribute these readers/coursepacks/syllabi openly in digital format to the web.
> So it is still very restrictive.
>
> Wouter
>
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> Subject: Re: [Open-access] [open-science] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers
>
> Afaik there is no fair use policy in Dutch law. We only have the right to cite phrases or sentences or small sections, and only under certain conditions.
>
> However educational use has been granted by some publishers or is sometimes included in big deal contracts. In our Copyright LibGuide we have a list of what is allowed for faculty and students of Utrecht University (unfortunately only in Dutch): http://www.uu.nl/university/library/NL/informatie/auteursrechten/Documents/Auteursrechteninfopunt_uitgevers_UU.pdf
>
> This tells you what is allowed in paper and electronic coursepacks. But of course this is all still very restrictive as it only allows use for and by Utrecht University members.
>
> Jeroen
>
>
> Op 2 mei 2014 om 19:09 heeft "Egon Willighagen" <egon.willighagen at gmail.com> <egon.willighagen at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>  On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>  I would think that copyright law always includes fair use policy
> which applies especially to use for educational purposes?
>
>  Not as I understand it. There is no Fair Use in UK. Is there in NL?
>
>  I do not know... I know that if I share an article in a course, I pay
> for that copy (also if PDF) for as many students are in my class
> (don't know the exact rules or exact payment, as I limit myself to
> using Open Access papers...)
>
> Egon
>
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