[open-archaeology] World Archaeology special issue

Thu Dec 6 12:25:35 UTC 2012

Thanks Ben,

but the 6 month T&F 'open access' is broadly, IMHO, an irrelevance. 
After 6 months the 'final prints' will be locked down (this has been 
exhaustively debated prior to the publication and is highly unlikely to 
change). We will not be able to post the published versions anywhere else.

We can start to get something sorted out with the 'pre-prints'. This in 
its own right may provoke an interesting debate about access to 
archaeological discourse on something that has such broad ramifications 
as 'open archaeology'.

Best

A

On 06/12/12 10:27, Benjamin Ducke wrote:
> Originally, there was a deal with T&F
> to make all papers in this issue available
> as open access for the first 6 months.
> Mark L. is looking into why this has not
> yet happened. Let's give him some time to
> clarify things with T&F. Then we can
> discuss how to best make these contributions
> available as open access in perpetuity.
>
> Best,
>
> Ben
>
> On 12/06/2012 09:48 AM, Ant Beck wrote:
>> Apologies...
>>
>> Inner-monologue didn't make it to page. The original should have read -
>>
>> If Steko agrees then I (or someone else) can contact Mark and the 
>> rest of
>> the authors, suggest this and co-ordinate any response.
>>
>> A
>> On 06/12/12 08:46, Leif Isaksen wrote:
>>> Hi Ant
>>>
>>> I'm extremely supportive as non-author but I think it should probably
>>> be a decision to be taken by those who contributed.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Ant Beck <ant.beck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> OK. I am making an assumption that everyone is supportive of this. It
>>>> would
>>>> be nice if we could make a big splash and host all the articles as
>>>> pre-prints in one place (essentially an open mirror to the closed 
>>>> world)
>>>> with a page that summarises the whole content with links to the full
>>>> articles.
>>>>
>>>> If Steko agrees then I (or someone else) can contact Mark and the
>>>> rest of
>>>> the authors and co-ordinate this.
>>>>
>>>> Agree? Steko - your opinion as group co-ordinator?
>>>>
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>> On 05/12/12 22:01, Leif Isaksen wrote:
>>>>> And from me! Whatever the struggles with the publisher, this is an
>>>>> important contribution so a hearty congratulations to Mark and all
>>>>> concerned for putting it together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> L.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Ant Beck <ant.beck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/12/12 18:06, Jessica Ogden wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 from me too! Many congrats to everyone on the publication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking forward to getting past the paywall and reading 
>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>> contributions to this very important, ongoing discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me too. I'm an author and at an academic institution that does not
>>>>>> subscribe
>>>>>> to World Archaeology. The lack of open access, as Steko notes, was a
>>>>>> major
>>>>>> point of conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Jess x
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Ant Beck <ant.beck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1 from me :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05/12/12 16:40, Stefano Costa wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> as some of you may already know the current issue of World
>>>>>>>> Archaeology
>>>>>>>> is a special issue, edited by Mark Lake, dedicated to "Open
>>>>>>>> Archaeology":
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/rwar20/44/4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most papers deal with open data, its creation, dissemination and
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>> I have had a chance to read preliminary versions of some papers
>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>> is truly a state-of-the-art discussion of the potential, problems
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> established good practice in this field. As Mark puts it in the
>>>>>>>> introduction to the volume, there has been a tendency for 
>>>>>>>> literature
>>>>>>>> about open [data|access|source software] in archaeology to be
>>>>>>>> confined
>>>>>>>> to the realm of "archaeological computing" and it is only rarely
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> mainstream archaeology has a chance to learn about the
>>>>>>>> ground-breaking
>>>>>>>> developments we are collectively making. In this sense, the 
>>>>>>>> value of
>>>>>>>> this work is going to be reflected also by the impact it will
>>>>>>>> have on
>>>>>>>> future archaeological work, globally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of the authors have expressed their discontent (or rather 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are doing it right now as I write, in the twittersphere) for the
>>>>>>>> contradiction of a volume on "open archaeology" that is not itself
>>>>>>>> open (i.e. Open Access). Possibly some or all of the papers 
>>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>>> collected in pre-print form and re-published at our blog on the 
>>>>>>>> OKFN
>>>>>>>> website. We will post any updates here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Congratulations again to all the authors!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ciao
>>>>>>>> Stefano
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