[open-bibliography] Fwd: [okfn-discuss] University of Ghent LibraryCatalogues: Open or Not?

Fri Mar 26 04:38:11 UTC 2010

David,

Thanks for copying me on this.

It's obviously up to E-Prints, but I'd encourage them to look at the 
Panton Principles, onto which both Creative Commons and OKF staff 
signed. They recommend using the public domain (either via a CCZero tool 
or the OKF's PDDL) on publicly funded science data, and it'd be a lost 
opportunity to encode PP-compliant principles into a piece of software 
that will likely contain a lot of publicly funded science data.

I'd also point out that data license regimes that impose share-alike on 
data can create expectations that 1) conflict with privacy restraints on 
data, which often exist on publicly funded scientific data sets 
(anything touching a human subject, for example) and 2) depend on the 
act of *copying*  - in a semantic web world, query is the dominant 
regime, rather than a copy. Last, of course, any contract regime that 
depends on contract carries the burden of the derivative database 
providers making a contract offer and the users agreeing to the 
contract, which over time can impose significant transaction costs.

All of these went into the CC work on data licensing and the public 
domain, and are reflected in the panton principles. We've done quite a 
bit of legwork and legal analysis of the risks and benefits and would be 
happy to brief you at your leisure. We arrived at our position after 
three years of research, and after beginning with a real desire to 
implement a share-alike regime for data.

jtw

On 3/25/10 5:41 PM, David Shotton wrote:
> Dear Christopher,
>
> There has been considerable discussion, I understand, between OKF and CC
> about data licenses, which may be still ongoing. CC is now recommending
> their "CCZero" license for datasets, since this avoids the potential
> problem of managing the "attribution stacking" that would result from
> automatic data aggregation from several sources using conventional
> attribution licenses of any kind. You are advised to take these
> arguments into consideration before deciding what to do for EPrints.
>
> For FlyTED (http://www.fly-ted.org), which as you know uses the EPrints
> software platform, we have, after discussions with John Wilbanks,
> adopted CCZero licenses for metadata and thumbnails, and normal CC
> attribution licences for high resolution images.
>
> Dryad (http://datadryad.org/repo), which is a repository for datasets
> linked to journal articles, has also adopted CCZero licenses.
>
>
>
> Christopher Gutteridge wrote:
>> For reference, we're planning to release the next version of EPrints
>> with the following default configuration.
>> ---[snip---
>> # Licence to be inserted into all RDF data.
>>
>> # We suggest using Open Data Commons licenses as these are more sutiable
>> for
>> # data than normal Creative Commons. Follow the license URLs for more
>> # information.
>>
>> # $c->{rdf}->{license} ="http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/";
>> # OR
>> # $c->{rdf}->{license} ="http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/";
>>
>> # $c->{rdf}->{attributionName} = ".....";
>> # $c->{rdf}->{attributionURL} = ".....";
>> ---[snip---
>>
>> Suggestions are welcome... We release in a few days.
>>
>>
>> Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 March 2010 00:36, Mathias Schindler<mathias.schindler at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Rufus Pollock<rufus.pollock at okfn.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Lukas, that's incredibly useful to know and I'll try getting in
>>>>> touch with them direct.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The license information seems to have changed.
>>>>
>>>> http://lib.ugent.be/info/en/exports.shtml
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Indeed. After we found the exports, I was put in touch with Patrick
>>> Hochstenbach (now on this list) the man behind those exports. After a
>>> bit of discussion he kindly agreed to relicense under the
>>> http://opendefinition.org/  compliant ODbL.
>>>
>>> I meant to notify the list about this but obviously must have forgotten!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is now "All Meercat exports with the Open Knowledge icon   are made
>>>> available under the Open Database License:
>>>> http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/." instead of some -nc
>>>> closeness.
>>>>
>>>> Sweet!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Very much so :)
>>>
>>> Rufus
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
>
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