[open-bibliography] DOIs and openbiblio

Wed Feb 2 12:38:11 UTC 2011

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Paul Walk <p.walk at ukoln.ac.uk> wrote:

> Peter,
> regarding your specific question on whether or not DOIs as identifiers are
> considered copyright. Like you, I expected that IDF would not make claims of
> copyright to DOI identifiers. I'm happy to say that I have just confirmed
> with Norman Paskin, Director of the International DOI Foundation, that IDF
> does not regard DOI names (identifiers) as copyright and, indeed, encourages
> their open and widespread use.
>
> WOW - A CELEBRATION - SERIOUSLY!! Thanks Norm.

> Paul
>
> On 2 Feb 2011, at 10:04, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Adrian Pohl <adrian.pohl at okfn.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Isabel Holroyd of biab online asked me how the DOI system[1] should be
> > assessed in the light of the Principles on Open Bibliographic Data or
> > Open Knowledge in general.
> >
> > In my opinion, this question isn't that easy to answer because on one
> > side DOIs aren't open in the sense that not anybody can provide DOIs
> > but on the other side they are open in the sense that anybody can use,
> > aggregate and disseminate already published DOIs. And it is this open
> > use and reuse of bibliographic data the openbiblio principles adress.
> > So, I believe, you can't deduce a recommendation to use or not use
> > DOIs from the principles. As I am not that familiar with the DOI
> > system, there might be other problems with it - e.g. with long-term
> > availibility of a free resolving mechanism or other.
> >
> > I think if we regard them as identiers and not resolvable addresses then
> we have the simpler question of whether identifiers are copyright. ACS
> regard their CAS identifiers as copyright - this is legal but not
> community-friendly.
> >
> > The best answer is probably to ask DOI/Crossref. If they say NO, then we
> don't use them, if they say YES we use them if they say fudge we use them
> with a take-down. I am fairly optimistic they will say yes.
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > All the best
> > Adrian
> >
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier
> >
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