[open-bibliography] Metadata aggregators, discovery tools and libraries

Sun Jan 23 15:24:43 UTC 2011

Peter,

I may not have all the details here, but I believe that the JournalTOCs data and service is open and free, and the software is open source, what is potentially being charged for is a customised service on top of JournalTOCs which taylors additional services and views on the JournalTOCs data to libraries. They are looking into this as a model to sustain the underlying work and to add value.

But David Flanders/ Andy Mcgregor can correct me?
Thanks,
Rachel

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:50 PM, David FLANDERS <flandda at jisc.ac.uk<mailto:flandda at jisc.ac.uk>> wrote:
https://pims.jisc.ac.uk/projects/view/1390 <-- let me know if you need further introductions. /dff

So just to check this is a JISC-funded project which produces material that (after April) I will not have access to (I am not a library and I do not have 650 Eur) so it's of no use and another example of a closed system.

It is not clear what they have built and whether the code and system is Open. I believe that morally and probably contractually it should be. So that we should be able to get their complete system for free and install it ourselves.

Is that correct David?

> -----Original Message-----
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> bibliography-bounces at lists.okfn.org<mailto:bibliography-bounces at lists.okfn.org>] On Behalf Of Jim Pitman
> Sent: 22 January 2011 22:26
> To: open-bibliography at lists.okfn.org<mailto:open-bibliography at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [open-bibliography] Metadata aggregators, discovery tools
> and libraries
>
> Adrian, all very interesting, and kudos to Jonathan for airing out this
> issue in the blogosphere. Following are some comments.
>
>
> > "Many many publishers these days provide RSS feeds with metadata of
> > their recent publications. By consuming these feeds, and storing what
> > you get over time, JournalTOCs is building a giant database of
> article
> > metadata — that only goes back as far as when they started collecting
> > it. My impression is that JournalTOCs is looking for a way to
> monetize
> > this at a profit however, rather than provide it in a cooperative
> > cost-sharing basis."[4]
> > Similar approaches have already been discussed on this list. Have you
> > already heard about this service? Obviously nobody has objected yet
> > against what it does. Maybe we could approach them about opening up
> > the data... Interestingly, their API is licensed CC-BY.[5]
>
> Well, the JOurnalTOCs API is CC-BY so there seems to be no legal
> impediment to massively caching
> and re-exposing their data, and e.g. feeding it to Krichel's
> authorclaim.  I can provide funding for API plumbing to feed data
> in subjects I care about from JournalTOCs to a place where I am more
> confident it cant be closed off and I and other biblio researchers
> have bulk access by rsync or similar for industrial processing. Anyone
> out there available to do this
> sort of work? Or suggestions of good contractors for this purpose?
> I could do some of this with Berkeley based resources, but I would much
> rather see a distributed effort of this kind.
> I would love to see OKFN provide the server and database support for
> this.
> I have no problem with using CC-BY for this purpose. You just stick in
> each record a field with
> the CC-BY acknowledgement, and then these records can be freely
> exchanged and mixed with others.
> Especially if subsequent aggregation is done with CC0, it seems there
> is no attribution stacking.
> Anyone else can aggregrate subsets with CC0 too, and the individual
> records only need to carry the original
> CC-BY from JOurnalTOCs.
>
> In any case I think JournalTOCs is providing a great service, and OKFN
> should do what it can to engage them
> and to encourage and support their efforts.  Anyone on this list have a
> connection to JournalTOCs?
>
> --Jim
>
> > [1] http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2011/01/heads-they-win-tales-we-lose-
> discovery-tools-will-never-deliver-on-their-promise.html
> > [2] http://friendfeed.com/lris/f9c18716/heads-they-win-tales-we-lose-
> discovery-tools
> > [3] http://www.journaltocs.hw.ac.uk/
> > [4] http://bibwild.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/more-on-aggregating-
> article-metadata/
> > [5] http://www.journaltocs.ac.uk/index.php?action=about
>
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