[open-bibliography] BibSoup/BibServer collaboration model?

Tue Feb 7 19:17:52 UTC 2012

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jim Pitman <pitman at stat.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> There should be a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software

Ah, if it is already on wikipedia then just delete our page and link
to the wikipedia version from our own wiki - job done.

> It seems critical to me for early success in expanding
> interest and support for BibJSON/BibServer/BibSoup that we emphasise and facilitate the interoperability aspect

All we need to interoperate is to parse one of their export formats.
So we just need to know what export formats they support - if BibTex
or RIS, we can already do it, which probably covers many of them.

> We should aim to facilitate import and export of biblio
> data to/from any of the systems listed in the wikipedia page

As above we can already do that where we can parse one of their export
formats. We have no control over what they import.

> I would rather see a table of progress of integration between BibJSON/BibServer/BibSoup and each of the systems listed in the wikipedia table.

All we need to know is which ones do not export in a format we already parse.

> systems and to exchange it into the public domain with tools and services this community is supporting.
> We would prefer the big biblio management systems to cooperate with us by providing BibJSON exports with an open licence

Yes, so we need to show that people are using our tool (which they are
starting to do) and then ask if they are interested in exporting
bibjson. But if not, we can stil just parse what they do export.

> How to kick start that community development process, to get some momentum going in supporting interoperability between BibJSON/BibServer/BibSoup and the > dominant reference management systems? I dont think we have answered that question yet

Apart from that we have already demonstrated doing it - we just need
to know if there is a a big refman system that does not export
something we already parse.

> Some template for interaction like http://www.isitopendata.org/ would also seem desirable.

Just use isitopendata.org

> I'd also be glad to see more of Peter's rants against pseudo-openness and Mendeley copyfraud under the OKF flag.
> We had quite a spirited discussion on the list of issues around appropriation of Bib data from the public domain.
> Why not air some more of that out in the blogosphere?  This is a strategic issue for the openbiblio community.

We already link to Peters blog posts from openbiblio.net, and can do
so a bit more. We could also syndicate some of his posts in their
entirety, but I think they actually have better impact from his own
blog.

Mark