[open-bibliography] open-bibliography Digest, Vol 39, Issue 6

Peter Murray-Rust pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Mon Apr 22 06:47:55 UTC 2013


No problems Sam,
I've come in for flak from TSK - being labelled as "an ignorant chemist".
IMO The column is seriously and damagingly biased but occasionally has
useful material.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org> wrote:

> Dear List Members,
>
> I must apologise for hastily posting that article with no word of context
> wishing for it simply to serve as a useful counterpoint and perhaps as a
> basis for further debate.
>
> Unfortunately, I wasn't aware of the long running disputes between the
> author and some of the core community members of the Open Science and Open
> Access working groups. Nor did I know quite how distorted some of the
> authors earlier pieces on a similar topic had been.
>
> if I'd been aware of either of those things it would have caused me to
> think twice about posting to the list without qualification.
>
> @William - thanks for supplying some much needed context and some other
> writing with more constructive perspectives!
>
> Apologies if my posting gave the wrong impression,  I appreciate how hard
> you guys are working to keep this sort of guff a minority opinion and in
> many ways the less said about TSK the better! :)
>
> All the best,
> Sam
>> Sent on the move
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, William Gunn <william.gunn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry to barge in here, but the TSK piece on the Mendeley/Elsevier deal
>> needs to be put in the right context, specifically the context of that post
>> being written by an avowed enemy of open access who has spent the past
>> several years attacking PLOS, Mendeley, eLife, PeerJ, Science Exchange, and
>> essentially everything with a whiff of innovation about it.
>>
>>  if you're looking for good perspectives on the Mendeley/Elsevier deal, I
>> recommend these:
>>
>>
>> http://cameronneylon.net/blog/whats-the-right-model-for-shared-scholarly-communications-infrastructure/
>> http://darkrepository.net/blog/garret/elseviers-slice-of-big-data-pie
>>
>> Here's the official announcements:
>> http://blog.mendeley.com/start-up-life/team-mendeley-is-joining-elsevier/
>> http://elsevierconnect.com/elsevier-welcomes-mendeley/
>>
>> A follow-up post from Victor, Mendeley co-founder:
>>
>> http://elsevierconnect.com/what-you-really-want-to-know-about-mendeley-and-elsevier/
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> William Gunn
>> http://synthesis.williamgunn.org/about/
>>
>> Support free access to scientific journal articles arising from
>> taxpayer-funded research: http://wh.gov/6TH
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:00 AM, <
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>>>    1. Re: [open-science] Elsevier buys Mendeley (it's   official now)
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>>>    2. What We Hope the Digital Public Library of        America Will
>>>       Become (Jonathan Gray)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:16:01 +0200
>>> From: Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [open-bibliography] [open-science] Elsevier buys Mendeley
>>>         (it's   official now)
>>> To: List for Working Group on Open Bibliographic Data
>>>         <open-bibliography at lists.okfn.org>
>>> Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
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>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Just catching up with this discussion and saw this piece about it which
>>> people might be interested in reading:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/04/08/a-matter-of-perspective-elsevier-acquires-
>>> mendeley-or-mendeley-sells-itself-to-elsevier/<http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/04/08/a-matter-of-perspective-elsevier-acquires-mendeley-or-mendeley-sells-itself-to-elsevier/>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 April 2013 12:09, Matthew Kaufman <mkfmncom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > this was known about 1 ~ month ago as their bookmarklet sharing
>>> buttons no
>>> > longer worked to post into there!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Brian Hole <
>>> brian.hole at ubiquitypress.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> As far as alternatives go, Wikindx is the open source reference
>>> >> management software I was running on my own server before Mendeley:
>>> >> http://wikindx.sourceforge.net/
>>> >>
>>> >> It looks like it's still being actively maintained, and I'm sure any
>>> >> additional development help from the open science community would be
>>> very
>>> >> welcome.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> Brian
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9 April 2013 19:09, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at okfn.org
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I will start using JabRef & Zotero more now.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Communally we have the tools to  create an open infrastructure for
>>> >>> scholarship.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We need the will to do it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Peter Murray-Rust
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>>> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:51:37 +0200
>>> From: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>>> Subject: [open-bibliography] What We Hope the Digital Public Library
>>>         of      America Will Become
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>>> I just posted a piece on the Open Knowledge Foundation's blog about what
>>> we
>>> hope the new Digital Public Library of America will become, which might
>>> be
>>> of interest to some of you:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2013/04/17/what-we-hope-the-digital-public-library-of-america-will-become/
>>>
>>> Looking forward seeing what comes out of the official launch tomorrow!
>>>
>>> --
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