[open-bibliography] Fwd: Re: [dpla-discussion] DPLA Board of Directors call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST

Sat Feb 16 18:26:03 UTC 2013

This was my impression as well.

> Does anyone know (or can anyone work out) whether CC0 will be a
requirement for all metadata in DPLA?

This is an important question which may have been a bit ambiguous in the
original statement. The revised statement is clear:

"The DPLA’s partners agree that the vast majority of metadata is not
subject to copyright. To the extent that metadata provided by the DPLA’s
partners may be protected by copyright, however, those partners have agreed
to dedicate such metadata to the public domain pursuant to a CC0 license. *This
means that any raw metadata imported into the DPLA, which is protected by
copyright, is provided under a CC0 license." *[emphasis in original]

Under the statement as written, not only do contributing institutions agree
to release their metadata as CC0 via DPLA, but there is an implicit
agreement not to argue any copyright interest at all. I think the addition
of point 4 is a nice touch as well. It doesn't add anything new, but it's a
nice human readable summary clarifying the spirit of the policy.

It's an excellent statement and I think we should do what we can to make
sure that this multi-pronged approach is adopted by other large
institutions.

Oregon State University is in the process of discussing similar language
with our legal department to apply to our published datasets.

- Tom

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, John Wilkin <jpwilkin at umich.edu> wrote:

> I'm not a DPLA insider, either, but I'm close enough to say with
> confidence that Tom's read of the intent, outlined in his paragraph that
> starts with "I think what they're going for here," is exactly right and
> nicely characterized.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Karen. Great it sounds like they are adopting a policy which
>>> include CC0. Does anyone know (or can anyone work out) whether CC0 will be
>>> a requirement for all metadata in DPLA?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not a DPLA insider, but my reading is that all contributing
>> institutions will be required to contribute anything copyrightable under a
>> CC0 license.
>>
>>
>>> Two bits that I find quite bizarre:
>>>
>>>   * "Gore pointed out that in her experience working with prospective
>>> data-providers, most cultural heritage institutions are comfortable with
>>> the idea that the vast majority of metadata is not copyrightable" ->
>>> Presumably talking mainly about US GLAM institutions. Is this true? And
>>> does 'not copyrightable' equate to 'happy to release in bulk under CC0'?
>>>   * "Courant said that he thinks CC0 is still too restrictive of a
>>> license, which is why he likes
>>> using it as a ‘backstop’, which the policy does." -> Not sure what 'too
>>> restrictive' means in this context? Too open? Too strong? To legally
>>> specific? Anyone know?
>>>
>>
>> I think what they're going for here is that no license should be
>> necessary at all because the metadata can't be copyrighted.  I suspect they
>> want that to be their primary position, but are including CC0 as a
>> fallback/fail-safe.  It's a bit of a nuanced position and I could be
>> misreading it, but that's my interpretation.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On 15 February 2013 23:20, Karen Coyle <lists at kcoyle.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Open Biblio Folks: much of the discussion in the notes is about
>>>> licensing of bib data. Perhaps we can read and discuss?
>>>>
>>>> kc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: [dpla-discussion]
>>>> DPLA Board of Directors call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST  Date:
>>>> Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:12:16 -0500  From: Kenny Whitebloom
>>>> <kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu> <kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu>  Reply-To:
>>>> dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu  To:
>>>> dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Notes from yesterday's Board of Directors call are now available at:
>>>>
>>>> http://dp.la/about/board/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call/
>>>>
>>>> There you will also find the materials discussed during the call. Let
>>>> us know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kenny
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/2013 2:19 PM, Kenny Whitebloom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  The next DPLA Board of Directors call will take place this Thursday,
>>>> February 14, at 1 PM EST.  This call is open to the public; more
>>>> information is available on the DPLA website<http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>  The conference line is:
>>>>
>>>> *Dial-in*: 800-501-8979
>>>> *Access Code*: 2739336
>>>>
>>>> An agenda for the call is attached, along with supporting materials
>>>> (also available online<http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>).
>>>>  Please don't hesitate to be in touch with any questions.
>>>>
>>>>  Best,
>>>> Kenny
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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