[open-bibliography] Inviting community engagement on building a bibliographic roadmap

[Peter Murray-Rust]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Rachel BRUCE <r.bruce at jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Some publishers have said they are seriously thinking about making their
> bibliographic data open, and are making business cases to do so.
>

Thanks Rachel,
This is very good news and JISC is a very important catalyst. JISC can make
things happen that individuals can't.

As soon this happens please let us know and we can put it under Bibserver
and apply the (JISC-supported) Principles of Open Bibliography.

I shall have a celebratory (small) drink. and a laregr one when something
is actually announced.

>
> We'll see how this pans out...
> Rachel
>
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> *Sent*: Wed Jan 16 18:00:50 2013
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> *Subject*: Re: [open-bibliography] Inviting community engagement on
> building a bibliographic roadmap
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I actually think that we do have a "business case" for free bib data, if
>> not more than one. Publishers definitely do, since the data that they
>> provide for free advertises their product.
>
>
> And unfortunately some publishers don't as they see bibdata as something
> they possess and to be controlled and sold. Do you have any concrete
> evidence that publishers want to make their bib data Open?  If publishers
> seriously wanted free bib data then maybe they would have reacted more
> positively to our Open Bibliographic principles.
>
> I actually suspect that publishers do not want open bibdata. They want
> Google to index it for them. If Elsevier tell you they are happy to give
> PeterMR their bib data for his own unrestricted use I'd be amazed.
>
>
>> Libraries do because they share bib data, thus saving themselves a great
>> deal of repetitive effort. An in essence, everyone who provides citations
>> or a bibliography with their work is giving the world free bib data.
>
>
> Scholars create bibliographies in scholarly publication and if these
> "belong" to closed publishers they claim the copyright on them.
>
> We just haven't yet done a good job of capturing all of this data together
>> in a useful way.
>>
>
> I agree. Some of us are trying, with little/no funding, to scrape the
> public web and to build shared resources. But it is often a long slog to
> create such bottom-up data.  And maybe this is something that libraries
> could put some effort into.
>
> <end of mild rant>
>
> P.
>
>
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> Peter Murray-Rust
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> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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