[Open-data-census] [okfn-discuss] A question about the Open Data census scoring system

[Ivan Begtin]

Dear Rufus,
   I think that methodology is great, at least it helps us a lot to promote
open data here in Russia.
Right now our officials very seriously would like to climb to 2-3 places in
open data census rating.

Russia is also federal state and we have about 83 regions (so called -
federal subjects) and about 24 000 municipalities.

 And I think that another dimension of the rating is important - how data
is published.

For example. One of russian regions, Permsky krai, created so called "open
data portal" which actually is not about open data -
http://opendata.permkrai.ru. It's just some kind of document search system
integrated with analytical OLAP engine .

It's not really opendata - it's "cargo cult" and we criticize them a lot.

We are ready to help with methodology.

Best Regards,
   Ivan Begtin

Director of NP "Informational Culture"
Co-Chair of Russian Open Government Data Council
website: http://infoculture.ru



2013/8/1 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>

> On 1 August 2013 10:24, Tatyana Tolsteneva <tatyanatolsteneva at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rufus,
>>
>> thanks a lot for your explanation, i have already found it here
>> https://github.com/okfn/opendatacensus/issues/33.
>> Please take my apologies for "OKNF", it was just a misprint.
>>
>
> No worries :-) (Just making sure not a confusion as opposed to typo!)
>
>
>> Here in Russia the Census it considered to be most authoritative
>> comparative study of open data around the world. And here we really feel
>> some lack of official information about the Census methodology.
>> It seems, this problem could be solved by official publication of the
>> methodology on the Census website.
>> Could it be possible? What do you think about the methodology
>> publication?
>>
>
> Yes this is a very good idea and we'll get moving on this right away. Any
> suggestions for specific things to include or language are very welcome!
>
> Rufus
>
> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Tatyana Tolsteneva
>> Development manager
>> tatyana.tolsteneva at svobodainfo.org
>>
>> Freedom of Information Foundation
>> (formerly known as Institute for Information Freedom Development)
>> P.O. Box 527, St.-Petersburg, 192007, Russia
>> Phone:  +7 812 766-03-66
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>> Email: info at svobodainfo.org <info at svobodainfo.org>
>> www.svobodainfo.org
>>
>> 31.07.2013, в 22:28, Rufus Pollock написал(а):
>>
>> [changing mailing list from okfn-discuss to open-data-census]
>>
>> On 23 July 2013 12:06, Tatyana Tolsteneva <tatyanatolsteneva at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> my name is Tatyana and i'm a development manager of the Freedom of
>>> Information Foundation - Russian FOI-advocasy NGO based in St. Petersburg.
>>> I'm interested in the OKNF Open Data Census scoring system because i
>>> can't catch it's idea of it http://census.okfn.org/G8/
>>>
>>
>> OKFN (Open Knowledge Foundation (Network))
>>
>>
>>> At first i had a hypothesis, that each "yes" costs 1 poin and points
>>> just should to be summarized.
>>>
>>
>> That's almost the case but not quite: whether data is up to date does not
>> count towards the total score.
>>
>>
>>> This idea has been perfect, if maximum for all questions would have been
>>> 7.
>>> But we have 6 as maximum.
>>> So my question is about "data existence" column
>>>
>> IN case all  "yes" should cost 1 points, it should be 7 as maximum.
>>>
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>
>>> Form the table http://census.okfn.org/G8/ i can see that some
>>> times "yes" per "data existence" is taken into the account.
>>>
>>
>> It should be always taken into account.
>>
>>
>>> Fo example,  Transport timetable is Russia, Government spending is
>>> France and in Italy.
>>> But in the majority of cases YES per "data existence" is not included
>>> into the account. For example Zip-codes Russia
>>>
>>
>> It is included there - it's up to date that is not included.
>>
>>
>>> And speaking about Russian case, company register for Russia  has 2/6
>>> and Transport timetable has 2/6, but Company register is up to date
>>> and Transport timetable is not.
>>>
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>
>>> Would you be so kind to explain this scoring and situation with points
>>> for "data existence" and i woul be specially glad for explaining in the
>>> context of the Russian score.
>>>
>>
>> Hope the above clarifies things. Also thanks for asking as your questions
>> will encourage us to put up further documentation on the website!
>>
>> Rufus
>>  *
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С уважением,
  Иван Бегтин

Директор НП "Информационная культура"
email: ibegtin at infoculture.ru
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