[Open-data-census] Fwd: Re: EU Consultation on gov data re-use.

Fri Nov 22 17:08:42 UTC 2013

Hello,

Augusto noticed that I failed to CC the list, so here it goes - late but
hopefully at least for those attending the event on November 25th
personally, still useful.

Sincerely

Peter

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Subject: Re: [Open-data-census] EU Consultation on gov data re-use.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:52:42 +0200
From: Peter Hanecak <hanecak at opendata.sk>
To: Augusto Herrmann <augusto.herrmann at gmail.com>

Hello,

I did post my comments, through the web form. So as to state my view, that:

- "Disclaimer explaining the rights of re-users" is the preferred option
(from offered ones) to communicate the reuse conditions

- "Creative Commons" is my preferred existing supranational or national
form of licensing, "CC Attribution 3.0 Unported" being considered the
best for the purpose

I also stated that any such chosen license should be "compatible with
other Free licenses (Free Software, Free Content, ...)". But meeting
this one (especially with some "custom" license) is not that easy as a
lot of "lawyering" is needed. But at least CC Attribution 3.0 was found
to be compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).

Sincerely

Peter

On 10/16/2013 02:57 PM, Augusto Herrmann wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> A month and half later, I can see no further dicussion on this thread on
> the mailing lists. Has anyone contributed to or is considering
> contributing to the consultation by suggesting a recommendation of
> standard licences related to the Open Definition?
> 
> I don't live on the EU, but I think an EU recommendation like this can
> influence open data licence decisions elsewhere in the world.
> 
> Best regards,
> Augusto Herrmann
> Open Data Team - Ministry of Planning - Brazil
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com
> <mailto:ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     The European Commission last Friday has opened a consultation based
>     on three questions the new PSI Directive gives the EC a guiding role
>     in. 
> 
>     http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-guidelines-recommended-standard-licences-datasets-and-charging-re-use-public
> 
>     The revised Directive 
>     <http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2013:175:0001:0008:EN:PDF>calls
>     on the European Commission to assist the Member States in
>     implementing the Directive in a consistent way by issuing guidelines on
> 
>       * recommended standard licenses,
>       * datasets to be released/improved as a matter of priority and
>       * charging for the reuse of documents.
> 
>     The objective of the consultation is therefore to seek the views of
>     stakeholders on specific issues to be addressed in the 3 sets of
>     guidelines.
> 
>     I think this is an important consultation, that needs a significant
>     input from the wider open data community. 
> 
>     When it comes to licensing and charging, there is I think a
>     significant difference between established (commercial) re-users
>     (which are sure to respond to the consultation) and 'new' users of
>     data. Innovation, societal resilience and grass-roots effort is best
>     served with getting as close to the open definition as possible,
>     whereas established players individually from their perspective are
>     best served by staying away from the open definition: licensing and
>     charging are great ways to put a barrier to entry on the low end of
>     your existing market or niche, and thus protecting yourself from
>     competition or challengers.
> 
>     When it comes to prioritizing datasets for release or improvement I,
>     as lead editor for the Open Data Census (http://census.okfn.org/),
>     am eager to hear your thoughts, and if possible welcome you to the
>     Open Data census workshop in 2 weeks at the OK Conference in Geneva
>     (http://okcon.org/open-data-government-and-governance/session-d/).
>     To me the datasets we currently track are 'infrastructure' (geo,
>     spending, voting, company register and such, transport), whereas I
>     suspect that to take on certain societal issues different core data
>     sets are needed (healthcare, education data, financial system,
>     energy / water, etc).
> 
> 
>     Best,
> 
> 
>     Ton
> 
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