[Open-data-census] Census questions from Russia

Tue Oct 1 09:24:20 BST 2013

On 30 September 2013 18:45, Christian Villum <christian.villum at okfn.org>wrote:

> Hi Ivan,
>
> Adding a couple of comments below. Everyone else, please feel free to add
> further comments based on your experience.
>
> > *1. About transport timetables.*
> >
> > We are not really sure how to measure this all.
>
> It's a difficult one (shared by many others, I assume). Do you remember
> how you approached this back in June?
> I would suggest perhaps focusing on the most prominent dataset available
> on national level, if any, or any other data set that might classify as the
> most important one, and submit that with a copy/paste of your explanation
> from this email in the comments field.
>

On the website description of dataset is:

Timetables of major government operated (or commissioned) *national-level*
public transport services (bus, train, etc). The focus here is on national
level services (not those which operate *only* at a municipal or city level
and which are not controlled or regulated by the national government)

There are situations where:

a) The government does not operate or commission any national level
services. In the case of fully private railroads, buses etc (e.g. US?) we
could either say "Not Applicable" to this question (a new option!) or we
could expand to say we include even private operators because this is core
national infrastructure where at least data should be open

b) What about case of private but government regulated like in the UK for
trains? Here I feel central government could still ensure timetables were
available (so perhaps we need to tweak the description).

c) We are *not* interested in municipal level services. Now I know some
train stuff is municipal and some national but you'd focus on the national
here ...

>
> > *2. Emissions of pollutants*
> >
> > Actually our situation on openness of this type of data is far from
> ideal, at the
> > same time I would like to understand - should we measure water, air and
> soil
> > pollutants, or radiation also should be measured?
>
> As I understand those data are not available from same source? This
> category is meant to focus on the availability of general pollution, and in
> case these data are only available under separate conditions and from
> separate sources, I would love to hear from the rest of the community if
> this is the case elsewhere (so we can learn from that) and in any case,
> suggestions and ideas for how it may be approached?
>

Concrete examples of the exact situation here would be very valuable - I
think one clear thing is a desire to disaggregate a bit more (but that
makes it more difficult cross-country). We could certainly add some
concrete examples here - e.g. radiation, toxic chemicals etc

Rufus

> -Christian
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> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Ivan Begtin <ibegtin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Here in Russia we are working on review of current open data census for
>> our country. I am not really sure that we are very-very open country,
>> that's why I've collected a few questions about census.
>>
>> *1. About transport timetables.*
>>
>> Since Russia is federation and republic this data is actually dispersed
>> over different government agencies, reginal governments and local
>> governments.
>> If I understand transport timetables right then it includes:
>> - rail transport timetables
>> - air transport timetables
>> - bus transport timetables
>>
>> So for Russia nearly all of this data is avaiable but under different
>> conditions.
>> Rail transport data well consolidated and actually open except machine
>> readability and open licenses.
>> Air transport timetables available via commercial operators.
>> And bus transport timetables is not consolidated.
>>
>> We are not really sure how to measure this all.
>>
>> When I see other countries I find that, for example, Canadian timetables
>> marked as open (http://2013.census.okfn.org/country/overview/Canada/)
>> but when I follow the link provided - I can't find anything -
>> http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset?q=transport&catalog_type=Data+%7c+Donn%25C3%25A9es
>>
>> *2. Emissions of pollutants*
>> *
>> *
>> Actually our situation on openness of this type of data is far from
>> ideal, at the same time I would like to understand - should we measure
>> water, air and soil pollutants, or radiation also should be measured?
>>
>> For example Russian atomic agency provides radiation monitoring data
>> online - http://www.russianatom.ru/ . It's not opendata yet, but I hope
>> that it will be soon.
>>
>> We are still looking for more emission of pollutants data sources.
>>
>>
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>>
>> Директор НП "Информационная культура"
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