[Open-data-census] [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be considered an "open" license?
Tracey Lauriault
Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie
Wed Oct 9 17:28:50 BST 2013
I also sent a note to CIPPIC in Canada (https://cippic.ca/en/open_governance) to see if they have done any analysis of this licence.
Cheers
t
----- Original Message -----
From: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Open-data-census] [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be considered an "open" license?
To: Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com>
Cc: Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org>, od-discuss at lists.okfn.org, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>, open-data-census <open-data-census at lists.okfn.org>, Tracey Lauriault <Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie>, Flora Butcher <daydreamer2105 at gmail.com>
> Hi Denis,
> I've read the 2011 discussion and 2012 skype notes, and agree with the consensus then that 4.1.4.a makes it not open. Earlier I read that paragraph to mean something different. >
> I still have no problem with 4.1.4.b-d and 4.1.4.5 as they are superfluous and covered by other regulations anyway, and can be therefore ignored by re-users, afaic. Best to get rid of them though. >
> best,> Ton> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ton, Peter and Rufus,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. I am not a lawyer either. Now I'm even more puzzled.
>
> (There is an ongoing debate among local open data community members whether PSI open or not)
>
> Lets see if anyone on od-discuss at lists.okfn.org can add some clarity.
>
> Best,
>
> Denis Parfenov
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> On 9 October 2013 16:51, Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
> Concerning terms:
>
> PSI is more than open data. PSI can be made available behind a pay wall (marginal cost) and as far as I understood "for non commercial purposes only" is also still PSI.
>
> Just scrolling through the license, I've noticed that there is an article which says sublicensing isn't allowed (if I understood correctly) and this is certainly not an open license.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Pieter
>
> On 10/09/2013 05:45 PM, Rufus Pollock wrote:
> Denis: suggest asking Open Definition list at http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/od-discuss
> They have an official conformance process for checking licenses conform to Open Definition. >
> Rufus >
>
> On 9 October 2013 16:17, Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tracey,
>
> I incline to consider PSI to be open also. Just checking.
>
> Best,
>
> Denis
>
>
> On 9 October 2013 16:14, Tracey Lauriault <Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie> wrote:
> Denis;
>
> At the Hackthon in Dublin, the data invetory team had classified PSI as open.
>
> Cheers
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Denis Parfenov <denis.parfenov at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:09 pm
> Subject: [CLARIFICATION REQUIRED] Can PSI Licence be considered an "open" license?
> To: open-data-census <open-data-census at lists.okfn.org>, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
> Cc: local <local at okfn.org>, Christian Villum <christian.villum at okfn.org>, Tracey Lauriault <Tracey.Lauriault at nuim.ie>, Flora Butcher <daydreamer2105 at gmail.com>
>
> > Hi Ton,
> >
> > As you know most of the data produced by the Irish govt agencies fall under PSI license.
> >
> > Quick and very important question: Do we consider PSI License as "open" license?
> >
> > (I don't see PSI listed http://opendefinition.org/licenses/)
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Denis Parfenov
> > OKF Ambassador for Ireland
> > m: +353863850044 I @prfnv | prfnv.org
> > The Open Knowledge Foundation Empowering through Open Knowledge http://okfn.org/
> >
> >
> >
>
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