[Open-data-census] Feedback on standards for City Census datasets

Mon Feb 17 20:51:49 UTC 2014

thank you sir!
works for me

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca> wrote:

> The second spreadsheet that Christian shared is editable (at least for
> me):
> https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAcHTKULuf8dG11c2stOU1BMzB4bEs4VzlpRXRzeGc&usp=drive_web#gid=3
>
> The first spreadsheet is/was not.
>
> On 2014-02-17, at 3:40 PM, J. Albert Bowden wrote:
>
> wondering if gtfs doesn't fall under transport-real time data specs?
> http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/
>
> sorry for not commenting on sheet, i don't have permmissions :)
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:46 PM, James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca>wrote:
>
>> I've introduced some new categories:
>>
>> - Public Works (public toilets, garbage, etc.)
>> - Public Safety (police, etc.)
>> - Health (hospitals, etc.)
>> - Permits (building, business, etc.)
>> - Education (schools, etc.)
>>
>> Previously these were all lobbed into "Civic Information" which is a
>> super category for any government information...
>>
>> There is no doubt a good vocabulary that we can reuse but at least this
>> is a first step.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 2014-02-17, at 12:22 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>>
>> Now that I am reading James' list
>>
>> Postal Code files, In Canada electoral districts are tied to the postal
>> code, with your postal code you can find your voting station, who you MP,
>> MPP and city councilor is and you can know in which electoral district you
>> are in.
>>
>> I agree that ESRI files should be considered suitable, especially since
>> many enterprise GIS systems are in ESRI, or autodesk formats and it would
>> be unrealistic to have them change thousands of legacy datasets from
>> massive legacy and robust system.  Also, having wms and wfs files is also
>> great as they can interoperate with other data distributed mapping
>> systems.  Also, in Canada, the Geo folks were the first to share their data
>> in a portal called GeoGratis and they were able to do it, as they provided
>> the data in the format that were used in the producing institution and then
>> they pointed to conversion services.  That ensured integrity of the
>> originating dataset and enabled the 'sharer' to do so with the least amount
>> of effort required, which meant, more sharing.
>>
>> Cheers
>> t
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:14 PM, James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca>wrote:
>>
>>> A very simple dataset that very few governments publish is simply a
>>> spreadsheet listing all elected officials for that government, along with
>>> contact information. A few governments in Canada have been adopting common
>>> CSV headers for this dataset.
>>>
>>> If the officials are elected by district/division, a geospatial dataset
>>> should be made available to describe the boundaries of the electoral
>>> districts. With respect to format, all governments I've been in touch with
>>> have geospatial datasets available as ESRI Shapefile. GeoJSON is great, but
>>> it is very easy to convert a shapefile, so I don't think the census should
>>> demand GeoJSON.
>>>
>>> Also, if the officials are elected by district/division, a spreadsheet
>>> should be made available mapping each address in the government's territory
>>> to the district in which it belongs. In many cases, it is not possible to
>>> simply use a geocoder and a boundaries file to determine which district an
>>> addresses belongs to; for example, in the US, each floor of an apartment
>>> building may belong to a different district.
>>>
>>> Another valuable dataset is a simple listing of each elected position
>>> within government (i.e. a description of the position itself, not the
>>> person who holds it).
>>>
>>> With these datasets, it is possible to build a basic but fundamental
>>> service like https://developers.google.com/civic-information/ which
>>> allows citizens to look up representatives by address. I can provide
>>> example datasets for each of these.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On 2014-02-17, at 11:43 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> I wonder if building inspections would be a good complement to building
>>> permits? That way data about building quatity and the quality of stock can
>>> be known.  Big issue in rental markets.
>>>
>>> Also, Canadian cities and Dublin track data about Housing and
>>> homelessness, and I wonder if those would not be good socip-economic
>>> indicators.
>>>
>>> a) stock of social housing in a city, and the count of those on social
>>> housing registry waiting lists
>>> b) data about the homeless populations as per shelter counts in a city
>>> c) data about foodbank usage
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> t
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Christian Villum <
>>> christian.villum at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> We're putting together a list of standard datasets for the coming
>>>> City-Census (as part of the Local Open Data Census)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqR8dXc6Ji4JdEEwSFF6OTJTMnhYa3h2ZS1temlDS3c&usp=drive_web#gid=0
>>>>
>>>> Feedback appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> -Christian
>>>>
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>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
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