[open-development] OKFest session proposal: Perspectives on open knowledge: an open panel

Fri Mar 14 17:05:23 UTC 2014

Hi Duncan, Michelle, Tim,

I'd like to just peep in here and say I'm delighted to hear about your
initiative. I'd be keen to participate and contribute data stories to make
for a lively and deep discussion.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm also perceiving a divergence between
the proposal and where this thread is going. What Duncan suggests is
similar to what we proposed last year at OKCon, and it might make sense to
double our chances but also not distill the topics at hand by submitting
several in parallel - especially with the extended deadline.

Please contact me off thread if you'd like more background on
http://blog.utou.ch/2013/okconroundtable/

Cheers,
Oleg
On Mar 12, 2014 7:14 PM, "Duncan Edwards" <D.Edwards at ids.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Hi Gisele, Tim, Tom, everyone,
>
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> Tim - I really like the way you have framed your session. Count me in J
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> Happy to write up a proposal but would like to get a sense of whether
> people would be interested in the issues I was proposing. I would be really
> keen to get others on board to collaborate on this.
>
>
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> The session I was proposing would I think have to start by surfacing and
> examining some of the issues associated with inclusion beyond simply
> looking at access. This is where I think it has overlaps with the session
> Ben Taylor is proposing - making inclusion a reality really means
> confronting issues of power and politics.
>
>
>
> I think the issue at the heart of what I am getting at is the
> relationships between different groups of people - you can get diverse
> people in a room and provide access to a conversation but if their voice
> doesn't have equal value then we don't have inclusion. If you apply this
> analogy to the creation of open data and knowledge you see the same power
> dynamics.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Duncan
>
>
>
> *From:* giselesc at usp.br [mailto:giselesc at usp.br]
> *Sent:* 12 March 2014 13:32
> *To:* Tim Davies
> *Cc:* Everton Zanella Alvarenga; open-development at lists.okfn.org;
> Michelle Brook; Duncan Edwards
> *Subject:* Re: [open-development] OKFest session proposal: Perspectives
> on open knowledge: an open panel
>
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Tom and Tim, thanks for inviting me. I really apreciate the two topics
> raised.
>
> Not sure if I can help in both discussions, but I would like to add one
> more perspective:
> - how gender and others important characteristics affect the dialogue
> between civic hackers/open data activists
> and social leaderships/grassroot movements ?
>
> We have been studying the adoption of a web tool for local budget public
> oversight (Caring for My Neighbourhood)
> in marginalized districts of Sao Paulo and we observed many challenges. To
> transform data into information and then
> into knowledge and then into action is crucial the relationship between
> these two groups. We saw
> that the access to internet/mobile, level of education, motivations,
> gender and others groups´ characteristics
> are very contrastant.
>
> Maybe my msg is a little bit off-topic (going beyond the gender
> discussion) and maybe you have debated
> such issues at lot. I thank if you can send me links for the previous
> discussions or documents.
>
> all the best,
>
> Gisele
>
> Profa. Dra. Gisele S. Craveiro
>
> Universidade de São Paulo
> Av. Arlindo Bétio, 1000
> +55 11 3091-8134/8829
>
>
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>
> *De: *"Tim Davies" <tim at practicalparticipation.co.uk>
> *Para: *"Duncan Edwards" <D.Edwards at ids.ac.uk>
> *Cc: *"Everton Zanella Alvarenga" <tom at okfn.org.br>,
> open-development at lists.okfn.org, "Gisele da Silva Craveiro" <
> giselesc at usp.br>, "Michelle Brook" <michelle.brook at okfn.org>
> *Enviadas: *Quarta-feira, 12 de Março de 2014 10:00:33
> *Assunto: *Re: [open-development] OKFest session proposal: Perspectives
> on open knowledge: an open panel
>
> Hello Duncan, Tom (+ hi Gisele), & cc in Michelle Brook who I've also
> spoken with about OKFest sessions on diversity.
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> I think there might indeed be two sessions here, one more theoretical, and
> one more practical.
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>
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> The session I was proposing was more at the theoretical end of the
> spectrum: asking what does the concept of open knowledge mean in different
> contexts. There is often a reductive tendency in some core Open Knowledge
> advocacy to refer to the open definition, or to some simple set of defining
> characteristics of knowledge as an artefact. Yet, as we discussed in the
> OKFest 2012 Open Development stream, there are many different visions of
> open knowledge, and different interests that draw people into an open
> knowledge space. I would love it if this session was able to pull out
> understandings of open knowledge both from different national and gender
> perspectives, as well as from different thematic strands of the open
> knowledge community: science, development, hardware etc.
>
>
>
> The more practical session (though, of course, no less theoretical), might
> perhaps start from Duncan's questions, and go into an exploration of what
> practical steps are needed in the Open Knowledge community to put greater
> diversity into practice, as well as pursuing an honest exploration of the
> challenges that can create.
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>
>
> There was a diversity track at OKFest2012, so I'm guessing there will also
> be people involved in that working up session ideas - but Duncan, if you
> were up for developing a proposal idea on this second one (sorry for
> missing your 'Diversity, inclusiveness, and voice' line in the move
> across hackpads, I though it was unclaimed, so had left it off) - that
> would be great.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Tim
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> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Duncan Edwards <D.Edwards at ids.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Tom,
>
>
>
> I suggested a session looking at diversity, inclusiveness, and voice on
> the hack-pad which has now disappeared. I suspect it has morphed into the
> session Tim is proposing.
>
>
>
> My original thought was to look at diversity in terms of
> inclusion/exclusion and looking at what real inclusion might mean in an
> Open Data/knowledge world.
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>
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> I was thinking perhaps to bring some focus to a session we could frame it
> around inclusion, voice, and representation in the creation of data,
> information, and knowledge.
>
> ·         What do mean by inclusion? What different aspects of inclusion
> should we be considering? Gender? Class? Urban/rural? Ethnicity? Geography?
> Language?
>
> ·         How is different knowledge and the way it is voiced valued?
> Just because someone has "access" to a process of knowledge creation
> doesn't mean their contributions are considered to have equal value.
>
>
>
> I thought an interesting case study could be
> http://www.zerogeography.net/2014/01/uneven-geographies-of-user-generated.htmlwhich highlights some of these dimensions in relation to the creation of
> knowledge on Wikipedia - specifically looking at Wikipedia content related
> to the Middle East and North Africa region.
>
>
>
> Tim - how would this focus work with what you were thinking? Looking at
> your proposal what I'm suggesting feels like it is in a slightly different
> area?
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> Tom - Does this fit with what you're thinking?
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> Cheers,
>
> Duncan
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> *From:* open-development [mailto:open-development-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Everton Zanella Alvarenga
> *Sent:* 12 March 2014 04:47
> *To:* open-development at lists.okfn.org
> *Cc:* Gisele da Silva Craveiro
> *Subject:* Re: [open-development] OKFest session proposal: Perspectives
> on open knowledge: an open panel
>
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> this sounds interesting. Are you happy to include gender gap we have in
> the open world? I'm just asking this, since the subject is fresh on my head
> for we are discussing who from OKF Brazil networking will be part of the
> advisory board of OKF Central, and it was noted the big bias we have here <
> http://okfn.org/about/advisory-board/> with its majority composed of guys
> - for sure when I mention the gap in open world I mean a broaden problem
> instead of a particular advisory board.
>
>
>
> I'm also ccing here professor Gisele Craveiro, president of the Open
> Knowledge Brazil, who might be interested to join this presentation.
>
> Tom
>
>
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> 2014-03-11 20:52 GMT-03:00 Tim Davies <tim at practicalparticipation.co.uk>:
>
>  Hello all
>
>
>
> We had a great call this morning talking about possible session proposals
> for OKFest 2014. Under current actions in the Hackpad at
> https://hackpad.com/OpenDev-at-OKFest14-SDobXcJkwPC you can find a list
> of all the possible sessions that were talked about*.
>
>
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> One I promised to work up a proposal for was titled 'Open Knowledge &
> Diversity' - with the idea that we repeat the 'open panel' idea used in
> Helsinki[1] (sort of like a Fishbowl debate on stage) to discuss what open
> knowledge means from different contexts - and surface some of the tensions
> and opportunities that come up when we think about the important aspects of
> open knowledge from the perspective of different countries, level of
> development, or issues.
>
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>
> The draft proposal is at:
> https://hackpad.com/Open-Knowledge-Diversity-An-open-panel-7tNuWvLQVTX
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>
> I would love feedback (including on the title - currently changed to
> 'Perspectives on Open Knowledge') and anyone who wants to be named as a
> co-organiser, or who might be willing to be a starting panelist for this if
> it was accepted.
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>
> Thanks in advance
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>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Tim
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> [1]: http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2012/10/02/reflections-on-an-open-panel/
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