[open-economics] Credit union failures

Fri Dec 14 17:15:52 UTC 2012

Hi all,
I am in contact with Sony Kapoor, Chairman of the Banking Stakeholder Group
at EBA.
Maybe this helps us getting access to some more data?

http://www.eba.europa.eu/Aboutus/Organisation/Banking-Stakeholder-Group.aspx

cheers
jia

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Velichka Dimitrova <
velichka.dimitrova at okfn.org> wrote:

> Hey Anders,
>
> That's great, I think with these columns we could generate a similar
> visualisation - it is not too much or too detailed information.
>
> As about the list provided by the EBA, do you know of any previous
> versions, which can help us identify discrepancies - banks which were
> listed earlier but did not appear in the list as of June 2012?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Anders Pedersen <anderspeders at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I agree that the spreadsheet is a bit crowded. We have lots of columns
>> and many of them are still incomplete.
>>
>> At the Open Interest day in London, we discussed some ideas for
>> visualizations - like this one:
>> http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/Failed-US-Banks.html.
>>
>> For such a visualization we would need data on these columns. As
>> suggestedI have updated these with *a star * *in the googledoc:
>> "Date of failure"
>> "City and country of operation"
>> "Home country"
>>
>> With regards to amounts, it is difficult to find reliable data on
>> bailouts, state aid and government losses. I would suggest that we use the
>> size of the bank as the indicator. In the tracker we have a columns named:
>> "Total assets of balance sheet of bank at time of failure."
>>
>> We would then be able to generate a chart indicating some proportional
>> differences between the size of the failures (ie. local credit union vs.
>> RBS).
>>
>> The link for the Failed Bank Tracker is still:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkitojFFyvjCdC1lcmRhRU9WWExSdmJ6OFpySExzb3c#gid=0
>>
>> Finally, in other bank news, the EBA has finally published the first list
>> of registered "credit institutions" within the EU. The full list of some
>> +7,000 banks, registered with national financial regulators (like FSA) is
>> available here:
>> http://www.eba.europa.eu/Publications/credit-institutions-register.aspx
>>
>> Best,
>> Anders
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Velichka Dimitrova <
>> velichka.dimitrova at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Anders,
>>>
>>> Since we have quite a lot of columns already, I am wondering whether we
>>> could put a star for the fields which we definitely need for this type of a
>>> visualisation, I guess this would be the date and the main city of
>>> operation?
>>>
>>> Do we need the amount that the bank received in state aid / for how much
>>> it was sold in a public auction? That would be the size of the bubble I
>>> guess, but probably we won't be able to complete this information for all
>>> entries?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Anders Pedersen <anderspeders at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> That is great!
>>>>
>>>> During this weekend at the OKFN Hackdays in London more joined the work
>>>> got involved in the update of some the failed bank data.
>>>>
>>>> We were pointed us to this visualization, which could be a
>>>> useful template for a European failed banks map:
>>>> http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/Failed-US-Banks.html
>>>> (on the left side you can choose "Value of assets at time of failure")
>>>>
>>>> Based on this visualization we have added a new column to the data set
>>>> called: "Total assets of the bank at the time failure". The purpose of this
>>>> column would be to enable us to visualize the proportional differences of
>>>> the individual bank failures (ie. the difference between Northern Rock and
>>>> a tiny local bank). The source would ideally be a financial statement from
>>>> the bank before its failure, like an annual report or a quarterly
>>>> statement.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM, John Levin <john at anterotesis.com>wrote:
>>>>
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