[open-economics] Credit union failures

Wed Dec 19 23:46:51 UTC 2012

That's a great idea, Jia.

It would be much easier if we had another earlier list to compare against
ideally prior the financial crisis.

Best

Velichka

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Jia Lyng <jialyng at ysicommons.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am in contact with Sony Kapoor, Chairman of the Banking Stakeholder
> Group at EBA.
> Maybe this helps us getting access to some more data?
>
>
> http://www.eba.europa.eu/Aboutus/Organisation/Banking-Stakeholder-Group.aspx
>
> cheers
> jia
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Velichka Dimitrova <
> velichka.dimitrova at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Anders,
>>
>> That's great, I think with these columns we could generate a similar
>> visualisation - it is not too much or too detailed information.
>>
>> As about the list provided by the EBA, do you know of any previous
>> versions, which can help us identify discrepancies - banks which were
>> listed earlier but did not appear in the list as of June 2012?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Anders Pedersen <anderspeders at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I agree that the spreadsheet is a bit crowded. We have lots of columns
>>> and many of them are still incomplete.
>>>
>>> At the Open Interest day in London, we discussed some ideas for
>>> visualizations - like this one:
>>> http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/Failed-US-Banks.html.
>>>
>>> For such a visualization we would need data on these columns. As
>>> suggestedI have updated these with *a star * *in the googledoc:
>>> "Date of failure"
>>> "City and country of operation"
>>> "Home country"
>>>
>>> With regards to amounts, it is difficult to find reliable data on
>>> bailouts, state aid and government losses. I would suggest that we use the
>>> size of the bank as the indicator. In the tracker we have a columns named:
>>> "Total assets of balance sheet of bank at time of failure."
>>>
>>> We would then be able to generate a chart indicating some proportional
>>> differences between the size of the failures (ie. local credit union vs.
>>> RBS).
>>>
>>> The link for the Failed Bank Tracker is still:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkitojFFyvjCdC1lcmRhRU9WWExSdmJ6OFpySExzb3c#gid=0
>>>
>>> Finally, in other bank news, the EBA has finally published the first
>>> list of registered "credit institutions" within the EU. The full list of
>>> some +7,000 banks, registered with national financial regulators (like FSA)
>>> is available here:
>>> http://www.eba.europa.eu/Publications/credit-institutions-register.aspx
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anders
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Velichka Dimitrova <
>>> velichka.dimitrova at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Anders,
>>>>
>>>> Since we have quite a lot of columns already, I am wondering whether we
>>>> could put a star for the fields which we definitely need for this type of a
>>>> visualisation, I guess this would be the date and the main city of
>>>> operation?
>>>>
>>>> Do we need the amount that the bank received in state aid / for how
>>>> much it was sold in a public auction? That would be the size of the bubble
>>>> I guess, but probably we won't be able to complete this information for all
>>>> entries?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Anders Pedersen <
>>>> anderspeders at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> That is great!
>>>>>
>>>>> During this weekend at the OKFN Hackdays in London more joined the
>>>>> work got involved in the update of some the failed bank data.
>>>>>
>>>>> We were pointed us to this visualization, which could be a
>>>>> useful template for a European failed banks map:
>>>>> http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/Failed-US-Banks.html
>>>>> (on the left side you can choose "Value of assets at time of failure")
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on this visualization we have added a new column to the data set
>>>>> called: "Total assets of the bank at the time failure". The purpose of this
>>>>> column would be to enable us to visualize the proportional differences of
>>>>> the individual bank failures (ie. the difference between Northern Rock and
>>>>> a tiny local bank). The source would ideally be a financial statement from
>>>>> the bank before its failure, like an annual report or a quarterly
>>>>> statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anders
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM, John Levin <john at anterotesis.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> about
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