[Open-education] [Fwd: Re: Friday chat: Do open educational resources have to be available online?]

Mon Jun 30 10:22:13 UTC 2014

Some great thoughts here from everyone! Incredibly useful stuff so I've 
added it to the Open Education Handbook:
http://booktype.okfn.org/open-education-handbook/_draft/_v/1.0/do-open-educational-resources-have-to-be-online/

And people's names to the Acknowledgement section 
<http://booktype.okfn.org/open-education-handbook/_draft/_v/1.0/acknowledgements/>.

Feel free to edit the handbook in any way you fancy - here's some ideas 
on how to get started 
<http://education.okfn.org/quick-wins-with-the-open-education-handbook/>.

Thanks

Marieke

On 27/06/2014 22:13, Jacky Hood wrote:
> Open Educational Resources do not even have to be DIGITAL, let alone
> online. Public domain novels, poetry, photographs, and vidos are wonderful
> OER. Modern creators can open license their artwork, film photographs and
> videos, and hand-written or manually-typed materials. These can be
> reproduced using photocopier techniques. Even some sculptures can be
> reproduced using molds.
>
> Even those materials that are digital need not be online; they can be used
> on paper or on devices not connected to the Internet. Two studies (PIRGS
> and PEARSON) show that students prefer bound textbooks 3 to 1 over
> digital. If open textbooks are to compete with commercial textbooks, they
> must be available as bound paper boooks.
>
> If we define online as "on the Internet" then we are overlooking other
> technologies to share resources: radio, television, telephone, and text.
>
> MOOCS were not invented just a few years ago. Much earlier MOOCS were
> correspondence courses invented by, among others, Briton Isaac Pitman in
> 1840. American university level distance education began in 1874 at
> Illinois Wesleyan University where bachelor and graduate degrees could be
> obtained in absentia. Educational radio began in 1920 and educational
> television mid-century.
>
> Regards,
> Jacky Hood
> Alliances Director
> Open Doors Group
>
>
> --------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Open-education] Friday chat: Do open educational resources
> have to be available online?
> From:    "leutha at fabiant.eu"<leutha at fabiant.eu>
> Date:    Fri, June 27, 2014 11:22 am
> To:      "open-education at lists.okfn.org"<open-education at lists.okfn.org>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is no reason to see online as part of the definition.
>
> On reflection I discovered my introduction to Open Education Resources was
> when
> I was 11.
>
> My school venerated William Hunter in terms of the Open Bible
> <https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Leutha/How_Open_is_Open/Open_Book#Presentation>
> !
>
> I am not a Christian, but have seen this in terms of the ability tfor the
> learner to make their own interpretation of the learning materials.
>
> all the best
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>> On 27 June 2014 at 18:05 Venkataraman Balaji<vbalaji at col.org>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>   I have not come across any definition of OER that makes âEURoeonlineâEUR? a
> necessary
>> condition. There is a need to encourage OER producers to offer an offline
>> version wherever feasible. Khan Academy is exemplary in this regard. At
> least
>> two different groupings of Wikipedia (in English) are available for schools
>> offline and I found that they are highly valued in schools in relatively
>> remote locations (for example, in the islands of Fiji or in Vanuatu).
>>
>>
>>
>>   I have also noted a robust reluctance in the mainstream IT community
>> (corporates as well as most academic researchers ) to work in anything
> offline
>> because todayâEUR^(TM)s big profits in IT are available in Internet technologies.
>> There is no reason why a MOOC cannot be partly offline. In fact, processes
>> like examinations-for-certificates are increasingly âEURoeofflinedâEUR? if
> they were to
>> have value to future or current employers (an example:
>> https://onlinecourses.nptel.ac.in/explorer   ). Similar to the examination,
>> part of an online course can be delivered offline. Back in âEUR~90s, a lot of
>> emailing in India used to be part offline: people composed email in a
>> stand-alone computer and bicycled to an Internet cafÃ© from where it was
>> emailed and mail was also received. As recently as 2007, a small campus
> of an
>> international Ag research center in Niger enabled staff to compose email on
>> the LAN (Yes, there was a mail server, which was not connected to
> Internet).
>> Twice daily someone carried a CD to the only city nearby to up/download
>> messages. Users certainly thought that it was not a bad thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>   In my understanding, there is a hidden assumption that unless one has the
>> level of IT infrastructure fairly comparable with what one obtains in a
>> mid-level OECD country, many of the online processes would not be
> viable. This
>> is not valid. It is also important to note that, in âEURoeemerging
> economiesâEUR?,
>> Internet access from mobile devices is fast outstripping access from
> laptops
>> and PCâEUR^(TM)s- a fact reported in the famous MeekerâEUR^(TM)s report (KPCB) on
> Internet
>> Trends even in 2013.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Balaji
>>
>>
>>
>>   From: open-education [mailto:open-education-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Marieke Guy
>>   Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:00 AM
>>   To: open-education at lists.okfn.org
>>   Subject: [GRAYMAIL] [Open-education] Friday chat: Do open educational
>> resources have to be available online?
>>
>>
>>
>>   The ALT MOOC SIG conference has been taking place today and I noticed the
>> following tweet from Pat Lockley (not his words).
>>
>>   "Taking a MOOC to a developing country is the modern 'coals to
> Newcastle'?"
>>   The tweet refers to the waste of time involved in taking an online
> course to
>> where there aren't computers or broadband. This obvious issue also came
> up at
>> the recent Making it Matter workshop
>> <http://linkedup-project.eu/making-it-matter-workshop/>  :
>>
>>   "Poor infrastructure (energy, ICT, etc.) means that education can
> rarely be
>> carried out solely online. We need to stop making technology and device
>> assumptions and ensure adaptability of resources and data."
>>
>>   So do open educational resources have to be available online? CC give
> details
>> on how to apply licenses offline
>> <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_apply_a_Creative_Commons_license_to_my_material.3F>
>> - but what are the implications of having open resources that are solely
>> offline? Are there initiatives working in this area?
>>
>>   Any thoughts?!
>>
>>   Marieke
>>
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