[Open-education] [Fwd: Re: Friday chat: Do open educational resources have to be available online?]

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 30 19:14:53 UTC 2014 

I think OER do have to be online, but they don't have to be only online.

If OER is defined as a licensed object, a lot of the benefits the license
offers are lost in physical only copies.



On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org> wrote:

>  Some great thoughts here from everyone! Incredibly useful stuff so I've
> added it to the Open Education Handbook:
>
> http://booktype.okfn.org/open-education-handbook/_draft/_v/1.0/do-open-educational-resources-have-to-be-online/
>
> And people's names to the Acknowledgement section
> <http://booktype.okfn.org/open-education-handbook/_draft/_v/1.0/acknowledgements/>
> .
>
> Feel free to edit the handbook in any way you fancy - here's some ideas
> on how to get started
> <http://education.okfn.org/quick-wins-with-the-open-education-handbook/>.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marieke
>
>
> On 27/06/2014 22:13, Jacky Hood wrote:
>
> Open Educational Resources do not even have to be DIGITAL, let alone
> online. Public domain novels, poetry, photographs, and vidos are wonderful
> OER. Modern creators can open license their artwork, film photographs and
> videos, and hand-written or manually-typed materials. These can be
> reproduced using photocopier techniques. Even some sculptures can be
> reproduced using molds.
>
> Even those materials that are digital need not be online; they can be used
> on paper or on devices not connected to the Internet. Two studies (PIRGS
> and PEARSON) show that students prefer bound textbooks 3 to 1 over
> digital. If open textbooks are to compete with commercial textbooks, they
> must be available as bound paper boooks.
>
> If we define online as "on the Internet" then we are overlooking other
> technologies to share resources: radio, television, telephone, and text.
>
> MOOCS were not invented just a few years ago. Much earlier MOOCS were
> correspondence courses invented by, among others, Briton Isaac Pitman in
> 1840. American university level distance education began in 1874 at
> Illinois Wesleyan University where bachelor and graduate degrees could be
> obtained in absentia. Educational radio began in 1920 and educational
> television mid-century.
>
> Regards,
> Jacky Hood
> Alliances Director
> Open Doors Group
>
>
> --------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Open-education] Friday chat: Do open educational resources
> have to be available online?
> From:    "leutha at fabiant.eu" <leutha at fabiant.eu> <leutha at fabiant.eu> <leutha at fabiant.eu>
> Date:    Fri, June 27, 2014 11:22 am
> To:      "open-education at lists.okfn.org" <open-education at lists.okfn.org> <open-education at lists.okfn.org> <open-education at lists.okfn.org>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is no reason to see online as part of the definition.
>
> On reflection I discovered my introduction to Open Education Resources was
> when
> I was 11.
>
> My school venerated William Hunter in terms of the Open Bible<https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Leutha/How_Open_is_Open/Open_Book#Presentation> <https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Leutha/How_Open_is_Open/Open_Book#Presentation>
> !
>
> I am not a Christian, but have seen this in terms of the ability tfor the
> learner to make their own interpretation of the learning materials.
>
> all the best
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
>  On 27 June 2014 at 18:05 Venkataraman Balaji <vbalaji at col.org> <vbalaji at col.org> wrote:
>
>
>  I have not come across any definition of OER that makes “online” a
>
>  necessary
>
>  condition. There is a need to encourage OER producers to offer an offline
> version wherever feasible. Khan Academy is exemplary in this regard. At
>
>  least
>
>  two different groupings of Wikipedia (in English) are available for schools
> offline and I found that they are highly valued in schools in relatively
> remote locations (for example, in the islands of Fiji or in Vanuatu).
>
>
>
>  I have also noted a robust reluctance in the mainstream IT community
> (corporates as well as most academic researchers ) to work in anything
>
>  offline
>
>  because today’s big profits in IT are available in Internet technologies.
> There is no reason why a MOOC cannot be partly offline. In fact, processes
> like examinations-for-certificates are increasingly “offlined” if
>
>  they were to
>
>  have value to future or current employers (an example:https://onlinecourses.nptel.ac.in/explorer   ). Similar to the examination,
> part of an online course can be delivered offline. Back in ‘90s, a lot of
> emailing in India used to be part offline: people composed email in a
> stand-alone computer and bicycled to an Internet café from where it was
> emailed and mail was also received. As recently as 2007, a small campus
>
>  of an
>
>  international Ag research center in Niger enabled staff to compose email on
> the LAN (Yes, there was a mail server, which was not connected to
>
>  Internet).
>
>  Twice daily someone carried a CD to the only city nearby to up/download
> messages. Users certainly thought that it was not a bad thing.
>
>
>
>  In my understanding, there is a hidden assumption that unless one has the
> level of IT infrastructure fairly comparable with what one obtains in a
> mid-level OECD country, many of the online processes would not be
>
>  viable. This
>
>  is not valid. It is also important to note that, in “emerging
>
>  economies”,
>
>  Internet access from mobile devices is fast outstripping access from
>
>  laptops
>
>  and PC’s- a fact reported in the famous Meeker’s report (KPCB) on
>
>  Internet
>
>  Trends even in 2013.
>
>
>
>  Balaji
>
>
>
>  From: open-education [mailto:open-education-bounces at lists.okfn.org <open-education-bounces at lists.okfn.org>] On
>
>  Behalf
>
>  Of Marieke Guy
>  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:00 AM
>  To: open-education at lists.okfn.org
>  Subject: [GRAYMAIL] [Open-education] Friday chat: Do open educational
> resources have to be available online?
>
>
>
>  The ALT MOOC SIG conference has been taking place today and I noticed the
> following tweet from Pat Lockley (not his words).
>
>  "Taking a MOOC to a developing country is the modern 'coals to
>
>  Newcastle'?"
>
>   The tweet refers to the waste of time involved in taking an online
>
>  course to
>
>  where there aren't computers or broadband. This obvious issue also came
>
>  up at
>
>  the recent Making it Matter workshop<http://linkedup-project.eu/making-it-matter-workshop/> <http://linkedup-project.eu/making-it-matter-workshop/> :
>
>  "Poor infrastructure (energy, ICT, etc.) means that education can
>
>  rarely be
>
>  carried out solely online. We need to stop making technology and device
> assumptions and ensure adaptability of resources and data."
>
>  So do open educational resources have to be available online? CC give
>
>  details
>
>  on how to apply licenses offline<http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_apply_a_Creative_Commons_license_to_my_material.3F> <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_apply_a_Creative_Commons_license_to_my_material.3F>
> - but what are the implications of having open resources that are solely
> offline? Are there initiatives working in this area?
>
>  Any thoughts?!
>
>  Marieke
>
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