[Open-education] Minutes from yesterday's call

Billy Meinke billy.meinke at creativecommons.org
Fri Oct 3 18:55:22 UTC 2014

Hi All-

I'm glad to hear that Javiera has brought up the idea of translating
resources about CC into languages other than English, as it is something
I've noticed throughout the CC Toolkits project. Many resources that can
help inform/teach others about CC have been produced in a single language,
and among other barriers (use of proprietary file formats, lack of sharing
of the raw/editable files, lack of a license or marking that would allow
for translation and sharing), there remains a bit work to be done. Some
really great things have come out of the CC Affiliate Network, but remain
in only one language.

For those who haven't seen, here is a link to the CC Toolkits project site
(in beta) that I've been working with CC Affiliates to get off the ground.
For now, only the Basics of CC toolkit is viewable, but we have more
materials in the hopper, soon to be published to the site:


We've supported several working groups in developing toolkit materials that
promoting the understanding and benefits of CC licenses in various
contexts, and we've been extremely fortunate to have many of the working
groups create the materials in two or more languages. Still, moving to
translate the resources beyond what the original working groups were able
to do hasn't been simple, and I've examined options that may help us
accomplish this. For the translation/localization of CC legal documents and
other formal text-based work, there has been ongoing success using
Transifex. It's my opinion that this tool is overkill (too intensive of a
process) for the translation of short-form text documents (which many
CC-related resources are), and AFAIK Transifex is not suitable for the
translation of other types of media such as those that include graphics
(infographics, handouts) and videos. Many first-timers to "open" and to the
idea of Creative Commons licenses are more easily reached through fun,
engaging media of the latter types.

FWIW, I see a great deal of potential in using Git
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)> (specifically on Github) and
Markdown <http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#philosophy> for
document translation and version control. IMHO, the simpler the tool and
workflow the better. The last thing we should do is expect potential
multilingual contributors to significantly increase their own technical
skills to be able to assist with translations.

@Javiera: I've pinged you off-list, and we should check-in about the
message(s) you've brought to the table at the last OK Open Edu WG call. I
attempted to review the video, but the audio quality was too poor for me to
understand what was being discussed. Feel free to chime in on this list, or
follow up via email or Twitter DM.

@thewholelist: What tools and/or processes have worked for you WRT open,
crowdsourced translation of media?

Interested to hear your thoughts.

Best from Hawaii,


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org> wrote:

>  Thanks Cable - looking forward to hearing more!
> On 30/09/2014 21:16, Cable Green wrote:
> re: translating CC resources - great idea!
>  Connecting you here with Billy @ CC ... who is leading a CC Toolkits
> project.
>  Billy - will you please give these folks a quick update on the project,
> and talk about plans to translate the resources created?
>  Cable
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014, Marieke Guy <marieke.guy at okfn.org> wrote:
>>  Minutes from yesterday's call are now available:
>> http://education.okfn.org/minutes-from-5th-working-group-call/
>> There were some really juicy topics discussed including:
>>    - *Community*: a discussion about the number of open education
>>    communities and groups around and the overlaps between them. One suggestion
>>    was to have an online 'meta day' or 'open open day', where all the
>>    different groups are represented.
>>    - *Open data use in schools*: Marco Fioretti gave talk on the
>>    possibilities of open data use in schools for teaching. There were some
>>    great ideas on how to move things forward through example lesson plans,
>>    government support and teacher training.
>>    - *Translating CC*: Javiera Atenas raised the problem of Creative
>>    Commons resources being predominantly available only in English. She would
>>    like to see crowd-sourced translation.
>>    - *Lyon Declaration*: Bernard Nkuyubwatsi talked about Lyon
>>    Declaration and its implication on the post 2015 education. Bernard also
>>    shared that the Government of Rwanda is considering an open education
>>    policy - great news!
>> Make sure you sign up for a reminder
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>> Thanks
>> Marieke
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