[open-energy] energy.publicdata.eu in flash or javascript

Sat Feb 19 12:25:28 GMT 2011

On 18 February 2011 12:58, Gregor Aisch <gka at vis4.net> wrote:
> Again, the big issue is the Internet Explorer. I think ProtoVis has simply
> dropped the IE support from the beginning.
>
>
> Am 18.02.2011 12:15, schrieb Uli Schöberl:
>
> Hi,
> there is a already well developed js/canvas based Visualisation Library
> which developed out of the Flash based Flare Lib
> (http://flare.prefuse.org/),
> it's called protovis: http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/

Yes that's what this was done in:

<http://rufuspollock.org/wdmmg/explorer.html>

See also earlier email:

<http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-visualisation/2010-October/000064.html>

> it also features an example for our Dorling
> Cartograms: http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/ex/cartogram.html
> But, I'm also still sceptical about browser compatability, stability and
> 'smoothness', as the graph we aimed for should not just visualise but also
> engage, and the timeframe was very tight on this one.

Exactly. Protovis is svg based and you have to do work (via a
flash-hack in fact) to get IE compatability.

Also decent animations aren't yet in protovis -- they are promised for
the next releaes I believe.

Rufus

> Think its worth trying out the next time, and if doing flash we should
> provide some kind of noflash version, maybe even static screenshots of a few
> main states of the visualisation.
> best
> Uli
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> To respond to Julian's question 'why Flash?': I think the short answer
>> is that we've got our eyes on Javascript and other more open
>> technologies, but for now we've found that they are still not so good
>> for (i) cross browser compatibility and (ii) too much movement. For
>> some JS experiments related to our 'Where Does My Money Go?' project,
>> please see:
>>
>> http://rufuspollock.org/wdmmg/explorer.html
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>> wrote:
>> > From Julian Todd of ScraperWiki...
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >
>> > Jonathan,
>> >
>> > I think this example [click the "Go" button - you can also click and
>> > drag the blobs]:
>> >    http://scraperwikiviews.com/run/outer_space_objects_view/?
>> >
>> > --  shows that you could have used javascript instead of flash to do
>> > your energy.publicdata.eu website.
>> >
>> > Is there any reason it was done in flash?
>> >
>> > My code is here:
>> >  http://scraperwiki.com/views/outer_space_objects_view/edit/
>> >
>> > Julian.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>>
>>
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