No subject

4. Absence of Technological Restriction

The work must be provided in such a form that there are no technological
obstacles to the performance of the above activities. This can be achieved
by the provision of the work in an open data format, i.e. one whose
specification is publicly and freely available and which places no
restrictions monetary or otherwise upon its use.
I am not familiar with the details of what OCLC is releasing but it I would
have thought the provider had a duty to make it possible to access all the
content in some way (dumps and iterators are the two things that come to
mind). Do OCLC give an indication of how to get all the data? Because
simply saying "our data is Open but you can't get it" isn't really Open.

I have some sympathy for data providers as I have had to create a set of
crawlers to download Open Data that I have collected. It's a non-trivial
problem.


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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Mathias=
 Schindler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mathias.schindler at gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">mathias.schindler at gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:08 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:todd.d=
.robbins at gmail.com">todd.d.robbins at gmail.com</a><br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:todd.d.robbins at gmail.com">todd.d.robbins at gmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Just a few links to go with the fabulous news:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.oclc.org/us/en/news/releases/2012/201238.htm" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.oclc.org/us/en/news/releases/2012/201238.htm</a>=
<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://dataliberate.com/2012/06/oclc-worldcat-linked-data-r=
elease-significant-in-many-ways/" target=3D"_blank">http://dataliberate.com=
/2012/06/oclc-worldcat-linked-data-release-significant-in-many-ways/</a><br=
>

&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/http://purl.org/library/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/http://purl.org/library/</a>=
<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.oclc.org/data.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.oclc.org/data.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>OCLC later released a statement that there won&#39;t be a data dump o=
f the<br>
ODC-by-licensed data for what they describe as technical reasons.<br></bloc=
kquote><div><br>From (4) in the Open Defintions I quote:<br><h3 style=3D"ma=
rgin-left:40px">4. Absence of Technological Restriction</h3>

<p style=3D"margin-left:40px">The work must be provided in such a form that=
 there are no=20
technological obstacles to the performance of the above activities. This
 can be achieved by the provision of the work in an open data format,=20
i.e. one whose specification is publicly and freely available and which=20
places no restrictions monetary or otherwise upon its use.</p>I am not fami=
liar with the details of what OCLC is releasing but it I would have thought=
 the provider had a duty to make it possible to access all the content in s=
ome way (dumps and iterators are the two things that come to mind). Do OCLC=
 give an indication of how to get all the data? Because simply saying &quot=
;our data is Open but you can&#39;t get it&quot; isn&#39;t really Open.<br>
<br>I have some sympathy for data providers as I have had to create a set o=
f crawlers to download Open Data that I have collected. It&#39;s a non-triv=
ial problem.<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
>

<br>
Mathias<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Peter Murray-Rust<br>Re=
ader in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>Univ=
ersity of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br>+44-1223-763069<br>

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