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Freebase.com and we can build a presentation layer with either with their
API or straight from their Acre platform. Acre is a tool, like the Google
App Engine, that enables people to create JavaScript applications for free.
I am a contributor to the Google Refine (previously Gridworks) project and
we could probably seek some support from Google for something like this. I
think that open data should in Freebase there unless there is a good reason
for it not to.

Freebase with Acre provides us with several advantages:

 - data we insert are linked with other things automatically
 - infrastructure is free and very secure
 - all data are stored as triples, meaning they link with external sources
easily
 - others can easily contribute to the code, as Acre applications are all
open source
 - no maintenance required

> Also we thought it would be cool to start thinking about start collecting
> other useful information around OGD like
>
>        =E2=80=A2 OGD use cases & success stories
>        =E2=80=A2 OGD most popular data
>        =E2=80=A2 OGD low hanging fruits (where to start? what data is eas=
y to open)
>        =E2=80=A2 OGD best practice
>

This material will be very good to collect, Open New Zealand has tried to d=
o
collect stories et cetera. We haven't done too well, people are too busy.

For prose, I think that we could use the CMS to collect material and use
http://www.booki.cc/ (or, we could use Scribus and do it ourselves) to
publish manuals & guides via Lulu.com. Then OKF would be able to publish
print versions of its material.

> I think that opengovernmentdata.org would be a good place for this kind o=
f
> mapping
>
> the idea is to collaboratively collect the above mentioned information
> about ODG and to display in different formats (as single entries in a CMS=
,
> as a list, on a map, in a calendar, as rfd)
>
> requirements: open system that allows users to contribute and maintain
> their entries. we would propose to use drupal (out of the box, good user
> rights management, easy integration of map, cal
>
> I would love to start working on this at opengovernmentdata.org very soon=
.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Daniel
>

It's a great idea. I'm sorry that I can't help out with the development sid=
e
in the short term.

Regards,

Tim
@timClicks

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Hallo Daniel<br><br>On 12 October 2010 03:40, Daniel Dietrich <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org">daniel.dietrich at okfn.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">
On Oct 11, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:<br>

&gt; I am compiling a list of competitions that support reuse of open gover=
nment data[1]. Contributions are welcome. 
 
</div>different people and initiatives started working on mapping OGD initi=
atives, catalogues, competitions, events. 
 
I think its pretty clear that there is a need for something like this. Lets=
 try to join forces instead of to re-invent the wheel. 
So the question is: how can we cooperate and collaboratively updating a com=
prehensive list of: 
 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD initiatives (Worldwide) 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD Events (Worldwide &gt; Calendar /=
 Map) 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD competitions (Worldwide) 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD catalogues (Worldwide) </block=
quote><div> I think it&#39;s a great idea to make these data available i=
n a single place. My interests: I
 am mostly interested in the raw data, so a spreadsheet works best for=20
me. Google Docs is certainly easier to edit and update than MediaWiki. I
 will have time in December to contribute to a presentation layer (right no=
w, I
 must finish my thesis). The New Zealand government is also=20
sponsoring a competition, <a href=3D"http://www.mixandmash.org.nz/">http://=
www.mixandmash.org.nz/</a>, and I was=20
interesed in providing officials some benchmarks on what level of prizes
 and participation to expect. I&#39;m a little concerned that officials hav=
e
 been told by open government advocates here that there will be hundreds
 of wonderful applications submitted. To make expectations on all sides=20
more realistic, I thought I should see the level of participation that=20
others have. Global site: Perhaps we should take technical di=
scussions off this list? Where is best? From
 a technical standpoint, I would prefer all the data to be in=20
Freebase.com and we can build a presentation layer with either with=20
their API or straight from their Acre platform. Acre is a tool, like the
 Google App Engine, that enables people to create JavaScript=20
applications for free.=C2=A0 I am a contributor to the Google Refine=20
(previously Gridworks) project and we could probably seek some support=20
from Google for something like this. I think that open data should in=20
Freebase there unless there is a good reason for it not to. Freebas=
e with Acre provides us with several advantages: =C2=A0- data we ins=
ert are linked with other things automatically =C2=A0- infrastructure is=
 free and very secure 
=C2=A0- all data are stored as triples, meaning=C2=A0they link with externa=
l sources easily =C2=A0- others can easily contribute to the code, as Ac=
re applications are all open source =C2=A0- no maintenance required =
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Also we thought it would be cool to start thinking about start collecting o=
ther useful information around OGD like 
 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD use cases &amp; success stories<b=
r>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD most popular data 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD low hanging fruits (where to star=
t? what data is easy to open) 
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 OGD best practice </blockquote><di=
v> This material will be very good to collect, Open New Zealand has trie=
d to do collect stories et cetera. We haven&#39;t done too well, people are=
 too busy. For prose, I think that we could use the CMS to collect m=
aterial and use <a href=3D"http://www.booki.cc/">http://www.booki.cc/</a> (=
or, we could use Scribus and do it ourselves) to publish manuals &amp; guid=
es via Lulu.com. Then OKF would be able to publish print versions of its ma=
terial. 
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

I think that <a href=3D"http://opengovernmentdata.org" target=3D"_blank">op=
engovernmentdata.org</a> would be a good place for this kind of mapping 
 
the idea is to collaboratively collect the above mentioned information abou=
t ODG and to display in different formats (as single entries in a CMS, as a=
 list, on a map, in a calendar, as rfd) 
 
requirements: open system that allows users to contribute and maintain thei=
r entries. we would propose to use drupal (out of the box, good user rights=
 management, easy integration of map, cal 
 
I would love to start working on this at <a href=3D"http://opengovernmentda=
ta.org" target=3D"_blank">opengovernmentdata.org</a> very soon. 
 
What do you think? 
 
Daniel </blockquote><div> It&#39;s a great idea. I&#39;m sorry=
 that I can&#39;t help out with the development side in the short term. =
 Regards, Tim @timClicks </div>
</div>

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