[open-government] [Session Suggestion] Open Bank Project

Tue Aug 9 13:01:38 UTC 2011

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for your message.
Our aim is to foster an ecosystem around the project, so people can use
these data in innovative ways. Thus, we need publicly available data to be
open as in OpenDefinition.org.

Maybe be this is an issue we need to explore further. What do you suggest?

Cheers,

2011/8/8 Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>

> Fantastic. Will the publicly available data be open as in
> OpenDefinition.org? E.g. under a public domain, attribution or
> sharelike style license?
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> 2011/8/8 Ismail Chaib <ismail at tesobe.com>:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > We're happy to introduce Open Bank Project to you guys.
> > Open Bank Project (http://www.openbankproject.com/) is a European
> initiative
> > that aims at opening up financial data to a larger groups of individual
> and
> > softwares and raising the bar of transparency. Once a bank supports the
> Open
> > Bank Protocol, account holders could grant access to their financial data
> to
> > chosen groups of users or even the public. For instance, a political
> party
> > will open all its transactions to the public so that people or public
> bodies
> > would be able to track who give how much money.
> >
> > The data opened and gathered through the OBP would be used in several
> > scenarios from fraud-detection to NGO donation tracking, we're
> particularly
> > interested in developing use cases that involve Governments (e.g. Gov
> > representatives disclosing their financial transactions, supporting data
> > journalism, linking these data with other gov data...etc). We're also
> > building an API on the top of the protocol so that developers can easily
> > access the data and reuse them in creative/useful manners.
> >
> >
> > We've presented the project at okCon recently here in Berlin and at other
> > conferences like Lift in Geneva. We're happy to count on a hard working
> > community, we have 2 Apache members in our team and start having good
> > discussions with European banks.
> >
> > We're eager to hear your feedback about the project and we would be
> > delighted to present the OBP at the Camp. What do you think?
> >
> > Looking forward to meeting you.
> > Best,
> >
> > Ismail
> >
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> >>   1. Re: Open Public Services - Democratic     Decentralisation
> >>      (JOSEFSSON Erik)
> >>   2. Re: Open Public Services - Democratic Decentralisation
> >>      (Neil McEvoy)
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> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:16:06 +0200
> >> From: "JOSEFSSON Erik" <erik.josefsson at europarl.europa.eu>
> >> Subject: Re: [open-government] Open Public Services - Democratic
> >>        Decentralisation
> >> To: "Neil McEvoy" <neil at mcevoy.biz>,    <open-government at lists.okfn.org
> >
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> >>
> >> Dear Neil,
> >>
> >> I have an issue with the U.S. centric outlook of Beth Noveck's paper
> which
> >> bluntly states, only one year after the EU rejection of the software
> patents
> >> directive, that it's not politically possible to do anything about the
> >> patent system going down the "forbidden path" of Dispositionsprogramm:
> >>
> >> "Similarly, proposals to [...] revisit the scope of patentable subject
> >> matter [...] do not eliminate the need to address the information
> deficit.
> >> They also require extraordinary political capital to move through
> Congress."
> >> (p. 126)
> >>
> >> For obvious reasons, I don't see it the same way, and there are other
> well
> >> developed strategies, which is why I would hesitate to put the Peer to
> >> Patent portal as a headline example of Open Government.
> >>
> >> Maybe U.S. politcal capital can increase to levels where effective
> patent
> >> reform is possible. This NPR broadcast seems to me to represent a new
> wave
> >> of fundamental critique of the patent system:
> >>
> http://www.thisamericanlife.or?g/radio-archives/episode/441/w?hen-patents-attack
> >>
> >> If you are looking for a progressive solution for Open Government in the
> >> field of patent administration, please have a look at the Polluters Pay
> >> Portal http://eupat.ffii.org/07/p2parl/exam
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >> //Erik
> >>
> >>
> >> Erik Josefsson
> >> Adviser on internet policies
> >> Greens/EFA Group
> >> BXL: PHS 04C025 TEL: +3222832667
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org on behalf of Neil McEvoy
> >> Sent: Wed 7/27/2011 4:55 PM
> >> To: open-government at lists.okfn.org
> >> Subject: [open-government] Open Public Services - Democratic
> >> Decentralisation
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey folks
> >>
> >> Here's my blog viewpoint on the recent 'Open Public Services' initiative
> >> from the UK.
> >>
> >> I think this is a critical step for the Open Government movement, as it
> >> provides a meaningful policy context for the technology tools like Open
> >> Data.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/OpenPublicServices
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Neil McEvoy
> >> Founder
> >> Cloud Best Practices Network
> >> http://mcevoy.biz
> >>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:17:23 -0400
> >> From: "Neil McEvoy" <neil at mcevoy.biz>
> >> Subject: Re: [open-government] Open Public Services - Democratic
> >>        Decentralisation
> >> To: "JOSEFSSON Erik" <erik.josefsson at europarl.europa.eu>
> >> Cc: open-government at lists.okfn.org
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> >>
> >> Hi Erik
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback.
> >>
> >> My primary focus is not so much on the patent system, and so I have no
> >> expertise to comment on your analysis. I am mainly interested in
> >> encouraging governments to take that first step, ie moving government
> >> process from 'closed' to 'open', by moving it online in this form.
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure Peer to Patent is not perfect, and certainly not so in
> the
> >> specific terms you describe, but technologically it's hugely more
> advanced
> >> than 99% of government processes, and is a big step on from where they
> >> were.
> >>
> >> Kind regards, Neil.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dear Neil,
> >> >
> >> > I have an issue with the U.S. centric outlook of Beth Noveck's paper
> >> > which
> >> > bluntly states, only one year after the EU rejection of the software
> >> > patents directive, that it's not politically possible to do anything
> >> > about
> >> > the patent system going down the "forbidden path" of
> >> > Dispositionsprogramm:
> >> >
> >> > "Similarly, proposals to [...] revisit the scope of patentable subject
> >> > matter [...] do not eliminate the need to address the information
> >> > deficit.
> >> > They also require extraordinary political capital to move through
> >> > Congress." (p. 126)
> >> >
> >> > For obvious reasons, I don't see it the same way, and there are other
> >> > well
> >> > developed strategies, which is why I would hesitate to put the Peer to
> >> > Patent portal as a headline example of Open Government.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe U.S. politcal capital can increase to levels where effective
> >> > patent
> >> > reform is possible. This NPR broadcast seems to me to represent a new
> >> > wave
> >> > of fundamental critique of the patent system:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.thisamericanlife.or?g/radio-archives/episode/441/w?hen-patents-attack
> >> >
> >> > If you are looking for a progressive solution for Open Government in
> the
> >> > field of patent administration, please have a look at the Polluters
> Pay
> >> > Portal http://eupat.ffii.org/07/p2parl/exam
> >> >
> >> > Best regards.
> >> >
> >> > //Erik
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Erik Josefsson
> >> > Adviser on internet policies
> >> > Greens/EFA Group
> >> > BXL: PHS 04C025 TEL: +3222832667
> >> > SBG: WIC M03005 TEL: +33388173776
> >> > GSM: +32484082063
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org on behalf of Neil McEvoy
> >> > Sent: Wed 7/27/2011 4:55 PM
> >> > To: open-government at lists.okfn.org
> >> > Subject: [open-government] Open Public Services - Democratic
> >> > Decentralisation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hey folks
> >> >
> >> > Here's my blog viewpoint on the recent 'Open Public Services'
> initiative
> >> > from the UK.
> >> >
> >> > I think this is a critical step for the Open Government movement, as
> it
> >> > provides a meaningful policy context for the technology tools like
> Open
> >> > Data.
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/OpenPublicServices
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Neil McEvoy
> >> > Founder
> >> > Cloud Best Practices Network
> >> > http://mcevoy.biz
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Neil McEvoy
> >> Founder
> >> Cloud Best Practices Network
> >> http://mcevoy.biz
> >>
> >>
> >>
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