[open-government] Entrenching OpenData as Gov Policy

Javier Ruiz javier at openrightsgroup.org
Mon Jul 4 12:04:23 UTC 2011 

Hi

is this body relevant at all?  it just looks a bit of a post cold war
leftover, along the lines of the National Endowment for Democracy, promoting
an outdated view on democracy as a formal system of rules, rather than
practices and values (Real Democracy, as people say in Spain)

>From that perspective open data is not that relevant

In any case, a 2 minutes search of this body points towards
a steering committee of civil society organisations

http://isc-cd.org/members/index.html

in theory they should be advising the policy direction, and one member from
Chile has been teaching Transparency and Access to Information, maybe she
could be your starting point:

http://isc-cd.org/members/sanhueza.html

good luck, Javier

2011/7/4 Justin Arenstein <justinarenstein at gmail.com>

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've just returned from the Community of Democracies<http://www.community-democracies.org/>congress in Vilnius (Lithuania), where I found that I was the only OpenData
> activist publicly pushing open access and open knowledge issues.
>
> The most disturbing part of this is that I was also the lone voice for
> OpenData at the new Civil Society Forum, or the existing Corporate Democracy
> Forum, at CoD, which both spent substantial time speaking about the role of
> social media and press freedom in the Arab Spring revolts, plus similar
> pro-democracy movements elsewhere across the world. Delegates to both fora
> had absolutely no understanding of OpenData or the importance it has for
> hacktivists or journalists. When I later raised the issue at the separate US
> State Department sponsored TechCamp <http://techcampglobal.org/> (which
> sought to give activists digital tools for circumventing oppressive
> regimes), there was a knee-jerk dismissal of OpenData as "irrelevant" and
> "all abut tram timetables". The dismissals were by the top policy makers at
> the Tech @ State <http://tech.state.gov/> team ... which shapes overall US
> policy on such issues. I had to argue hard that this was nonsense, and that
> access to development indicators, performance data, and things like mineral
> license data, contracting data, etc, were all essential to watchdog NGOS &
> journalists.
>
> I think that, if OKF intends entrenching OpenData as a fundamental "pillar
> of democracy" in governments around the world, it should make a concerted
> effort to play a role in future meetings, + must proactively engage with the
> Tech @ State folk (whether we agree with US foreign policy, or not). Open
> Data should be recognised as a core principle for responsible government,
> especially in the developing world, and not as a "nice to have" luxury as it
> is currently viewed.
>
> One way of doing this would be to produce a briefing pack for all of us to
> use when any of us are at these kinds of events.
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
>
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>> One of the presenters at OKNFCon2011 actually was one the guys  who
>> promoted
>> this policy, and was working with transparency hacker in Brazil. He
>> presented with  Lucas Maiton from IPEA. Unfortunately don't have his name
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>> On 3 July 2011 15:41, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
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>> > Does anyone have links to material mentioned here?
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>> Hi, Jonathan,
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>> The open data presented there are:
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>> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4417:contratos-abertos&catid=6:conheca-a-camara&Itemid=20
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>> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4264&Itemid=205
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>> But it would be better organized, transparent and easy to visualize.
>> Does it help you?
>> Best,
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>> C?sar
>> twitter.com/cesarviana
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>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org
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>> > Does anyone have links to material mentioned here?
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