[open-government] Entrenching OpenData as Gov Policy

Mon Jul 4 12:30:45 UTC 2011

Hi Javier.

Yip, you're right: NED and its kind were lobbying prominently at the event
-- but the countries with the most outspoken and/or engaged delegates were
from the former USSR region, MENA, Latin America, and south east Asia. This
is partially reflected in the steering committee link you shared. The
presidency for CoD was also passed from Lithuania to Mongolia. CoD therefore
struck me as a potentially useful platform for the OK movement to reach
beyond our current predominant EU & US footprint, to engage societies in
transition.

And, as I said, people like the Chilean delegate (who we'd have expected to
have an appreciation for OpenData), were instead focused exclusively on
social media & blogging as the coalface of digital activism. They're
obviously extremely important, as tools for free expression. But, OpenData
is just as important as an expression of access to info.

Cheers,
Justin

On 4 July 2011 14:04, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> is this body relevant at all?  it just looks a bit of a post cold war
> leftover, along the lines of the National Endowment for Democracy, promoting
> an outdated view on democracy as a formal system of rules, rather than
> practices and values (Real Democracy, as people say in Spain)
>
> From that perspective open data is not that relevant
>
> In any case, a 2 minutes search of this body points towards
> a steering committee of civil society organisations
>
> http://isc-cd.org/members/index.html
>
> in theory they should be advising the policy direction, and one member from
> Chile has been teaching Transparency and Access to Information, maybe she
> could be your starting point:
>
> http://isc-cd.org/members/sanhueza.html
>
> good luck, Javier
>
> 2011/7/4 Justin Arenstein <justinarenstein at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've just returned from the Community of Democracies<http://www.community-democracies.org/>congress in Vilnius (Lithuania), where I found that I was the only OpenData
>> activist publicly pushing open access and open knowledge issues.
>>
>> The most disturbing part of this is that I was also the lone voice for
>> OpenData at the new Civil Society Forum, or the existing Corporate Democracy
>> Forum, at CoD, which both spent substantial time speaking about the role of
>> social media and press freedom in the Arab Spring revolts, plus similar
>> pro-democracy movements elsewhere across the world. Delegates to both fora
>> had absolutely no understanding of OpenData or the importance it has for
>> hacktivists or journalists. When I later raised the issue at the separate US
>> State Department sponsored TechCamp <http://techcampglobal.org/> (which
>> sought to give activists digital tools for circumventing oppressive
>> regimes), there was a knee-jerk dismissal of OpenData as "irrelevant" and
>> "all abut tram timetables". The dismissals were by the top policy makers at
>> the Tech @ State <http://tech.state.gov/> team ... which shapes overall
>> US policy on such issues. I had to argue hard that this was nonsense, and
>> that access to development indicators, performance data, and things like
>> mineral license data, contracting data, etc, were all essential to watchdog
>> NGOS & journalists.
>>
>> I think that, if OKF intends entrenching OpenData as a fundamental "pillar
>> of democracy" in governments around the world, it should make a concerted
>> effort to play a role in future meetings, + must proactively engage with the
>> Tech @ State folk (whether we agree with US foreign policy, or not). Open
>> Data should be recognised as a core principle for responsible government,
>> especially in the developing world, and not as a "nice to have" luxury as it
>> is currently viewed.
>>
>> One way of doing this would be to produce a briefing pack for all of us to
>> use when any of us are at these kinds of events.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Justin
>>
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>>> Hi, Jonathan,
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>>> The open data presented there are:
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>>> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4417:contratos-abertos&catid=6:conheca-a-camara&Itemid=20
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>>> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4264&Itemid=205
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>>> But it would be better organized, transparent and easy to visualize.
>>> Does it help you?
>>> Best,
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>>> C?sar
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