[open-government] We need international open government data principles

Fabrizio Scrollini fabrizio.scrollini at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 11:18:45 UTC 2011


Hi

great initiative.

Just to contribute with the Latin American view on this, two cities
Montevideo (following the Sebastopol 8 principles)  and Sao Paulo already
have policies in place, yet there is nothing similar to a law or a decree
regulating the issue.

Chile is moving forward as more data is becoming available online and the
Council for Transparency is testing open data
http://www.consejotransparencia.cl/consejo/site/edic/base/port/pcatalogo.html.
Probably all of you are aware of the Web Foundaiton study on Chile as well
in terms of feasibility of implementation of open data policies in Chile.

There is a need for clear principles. For example an excellent website
called Gasto Publico Bahiense in Argentina (sort of where does my money go)
had to close because someone in the government used a capcha when they
redesigned the budget official website. According the people in charge of
gasto publico bahiense, they will redesign their website, and will overcome
this obstacle, (which is great) but I think there should be a clear
understanding of rules of the game between activists and government to
prevent this unnecessary clashes. Having said all this, people I know in the
Open Data world are very adverse to anything like regulation, and with good
reasons as drawing policies in stone, may well harm the advancement of the
agenda.

While I see key issues in use and reuse of information in countries such as
UK, Australia and New Zealand, this point is not particularly clear in Latin
America yet (and possibly in some European countries as well). So I guess
there is a need to rethink the intersection of Intellectual Property, Access
to Information and Open Data.

I am in to discuss the topic, and contribute,

Best wishes,

Fabrizio






2011/7/8 Ivan Begtin <ibegtin at gmail.com>

> Hi Jonathan.
>     I think it's very important. And it's will be even more important if we
> will have any chance to get support for those principles of
> intergovernmental bodies.
>
> Sad to say but russian officials actually motivated by low ratings of
> Russia made by UN, ITU and WorldBank (DoingBusiness).
>
> Sure we could do a lot without any government support  but open framework
> will speed up data opening.
> Also here in Russia we have licensing vacuum about government information.
> So I think that basic framework and implementation roadmap are very
> important.
>
> I will be happy to help so much as I can.
>
>
> 2011/7/8 Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>
>> I just posted this on the OKF blog:
>>
>>
>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/08/we-need-international-open-government-data-principles/
>>
>> I'd really like to try and start a conversation around this again -
>> with key stakeholders from around the world.
>>
>> The key thing in my mind is consensus - rather than new content. We
>> have lots of good conceptual work, and clear wording to build on. What
>> is needed is to bring key people to the table and to agree on
>> something very short and very clear.
>>
>> Anyone interested? ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
>>
>> Community Coordinator
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://blog.okfn.org
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