[open-government] Is it too radical to demand everything?

Sat Sep 15 02:48:53 UTC 2012

On 15/09/12 03:58, Josh Tauberer wrote: 

		the open data movement must demand from government and public sector to publish everything themselves

	It's not too radical. If you add in basic caveats for security, privacy, and intellectual property,

Which intellectual properties are you thinking of?

Europeana finally came to the conclusion that its metadata has to be CC0 (as it also waives database rights).

The GPL is a software patent free zone.

So, which legit caveats are there?

Trademarks?

//Erik

	I think most open gov advocates would say, yes, in a perfect world, government records should all be online. That sort of across-the-board transparency is the root of the freedom of information / right to know movement, which is right now pretty healthy across the world. People do demand that, and constitutions these days get written with that in mind. (Success!)

	A good starting point is the external links section on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_legislation.

	At the same time, people specialize on particular types of government records --- legislative, geospatial, financial, etc. We get into the details on these because when it comes time to implementing open data the details matter.

	So, both are going on.

	- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

	http://razor.occams.info

	On 09/14/2012 05:06 AM, Ivo Babaja wrote:

		Considering Rufus' post about great expectations, I think that the goal for open data should be more radical.

		I think that, at least in some future perspective, the open data movement must demand from government and public sector to publish everything themselves.

		To require that information should be published, to be considered official and legal.

		And I mean ALL information. Why not e.g. publish financial transactions made from all government's accounts?

		That should help fight corruption more than simple budget projections.

		With this info, there is foundation for more meaningful, more to-the-point political discussion, whether it comes from media, political parties or NGOs. 

		And that is real contribution to democratic progress.

		But open data can not be just about progress. 

		It must also be about people's right to know and control those that are conducting public duties.

		My views in short here: http://www.publictopublic.org.

		Kind regards,

		Ivo Babaja

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