[open-government] [euopendata] Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules

Wed Apr 17 08:49:09 UTC 2013

We should also consider that they may be thinking of other stakeholders.
The analysis from our friends was purely based on process not content.

In any case it's almost a done deal.
On Apr 16, 2013 7:01 PM, "Ton Zijlstra" <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting Javier.
>
> My first reaction, based upon reading the new versus the existing text of
> the PSI Directive, would be that it might be about seeking to set the
> narrative on how to interpret the wording of the new Directive.
> Specifically concerning the 'right to re-use' and charging / charging
> transparency. But that is just taking your suspicion face-value. So caveats
> apply.
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> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org>wrote:
>
>>  Brussels insiders tell us that if the Commission released the
>> announcement before the text was available (luckily it was leaked), this
>> means they are trying to pre-empt the media cycle, and this is normally
>> because they don't like what is there. Any insights?
>>
>> --
>> Javier Ruiz
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>> On Friday, 12 April 2013 at 16:14, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>>
>>  I will take some time to look at this properly next week but a couple
>> of things that are new:
>>
>>
>> Formats: open and machine readable formats required where possible and
>> appropriate
>>
>>
>> We must stress the stuff in the current version is NOT OPEN STANDARDS. It
>> says nothing about royalties, free access to documentation, etc.
>>
>>
>> Exclusive arrangements: Illegal unless needed for a public interest
>> service (unchanged). Arrangements need to be motivated and reviewed every 3
>> years. For digitization of cultural heritage material it may be 10 years
>> (new).
>>
>> It appears that exclusive digitisation deals can be perpetual, reviewed
>> after 10 years and every 7 years thereafter. This is a fundamental change.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm intrigued by the statement of Kroes on the 'genuine right to re-use
>> which was not present before'. Will do some more close reading to find what
>> that remark is based on.
>>
>>
>> Puzzling indeed
>>
>> Javier
>>
>>
>> Ton
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>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
>> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Erik! Has someone already analysed it? Whats in it regarding to
>> our most burning questions: Licensing, pricing and the extension of the
>> directive to include cultural heritage institutions. Is the previously
>> progressive proposal of the commission watered down? I would like to hear
>> what other people find in it.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:19, Erik Borälv <Erik.Boralv at VINNOVA.se> wrote:
>>
>> > And here it is...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Erik Borälv
>> > VINNOVA - The Swedish Innovation Agency
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
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>> > Ämne: Re: [euopendata] [open-government] Commission welcomes Member
>> States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules
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>> > Did that as well. Asked EC and sent a request to the Dutch
>> representative.
>> >
>> > best,
>> > Ton
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>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
>> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>> wrote:
>> > Hi Katleen,
>> >
>> > On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:04, Katleen Janssen <
>> Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be<mailto:Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >>
>> >> It may take a while for the official document will appear in the
>> Council's document register. I think the best thing to do is ask the
>> Commission or our national representatives for a copy.
>> >
>> > This is what I just did. Lets see who gets the answer first :)
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If I understood it correctly, there was already a trialogue going on,
>> so the Parliament's approval in June should in theory only be a formal
>> matter...
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Katleen
>> >>
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>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >> with interest I have read todays press release:
>> >>
>> >> Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules
>> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-316_en.htm
>> >>
>> >> and Commissioner Kroes tweet:
>> >>
>> >> https://twitter.com/NeelieKroesEU/status/321931122017697792
>> >>
>> >> I guess this doesn't refers to the original Dec 2011 proposal but to a
>> modified version. However I could not find it.
>> >>
>> >> I would very much appreciate any hints. Thanks in advance.
>> >>
>> >> All the best
>> >> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> PS: Of course we are not quite there yet, since this the proposed
>> amendment still have to pass the European Parliament.
>> >>
>> >>
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