[open-government] What Does $3.2M Buy in Open Government?

Wed Jul 17 15:04:10 UTC 2013

Not speaking on behalf of Sunlight but as someone who regularly applied for
Knight funding from Europe, I think every private foundation has the right
to support whoever they want. However it seems true that Knight tends to
open up their challenges to the global community and then support US-based
organizations only.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer at govtrack.us> wrote:

>  that's a shame for a so-called "OpenGov" challenge :(
>
>
> That's not fair at all. This is open *government*, not open everything.
> Unlike our governments, we don't pay taxes to the Knight Foundation.
>
> Their applauding thing seemed to be a gimmick, and they should be clear
> about how it is (not) used. But there were a LOT of proposals not accepted
> (including mine), so I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume
> international submissions were singled out.
>
> - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
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> On 07/17/2013 09:00 AM, Armel LE COZ wrote:
>
>  I totally agree with Samuel and Stef: Close process, not opened to
> non-US projects (and it was not said) + no transparency about the rules of
> the challenge and the selection criteria ...that's a shame for a so-called
> "OpenGov" challenge :(
>
>  We spent time and energy to grow the "applauding" of our project
> Parliament & Citizens ...for nothing because we're not from US?
>
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> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Samuel Goëta <samgoeta at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ce concours m'a agacé, n'hésitez pas à réagir
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Samuel Goëta <samgoeta at gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [open-government] What Does $3.2M Buy in Open Government?
>> To: stef <s at ctrlc.hu>
>> Cc: Christian Villum <christian.villum at okfn.org>, Open Government WG
>> List <open-government at lists.okfn.org>
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>>
>> Completely agree on that, I saw some great projects from all other the
>> world and none of them are in the winners list. Also it's quite obscure the
>> way these 3.2M$ were attributed, especially for an open government grant…
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, stef <s at ctrlc.hu> wrote:
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>>> i find it sad, that only US based initiatives won. this could have been
>>> communicated upfront, so that all the 2nd class people of the world do
>>> not
>>> bother applying. :/
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