[open-government] Public assessment of the OGP national plans

[Alan Hudson]

Thanks Alberto.

But it was the IRM team that did the hard work, not me!

I simply made use of their data - identifying top and bottom performers -
in ways that the IRM team is not able to do (because some OGP countries
don't want rankings to be done, for a variety of good and bad reasons).

best,
alan


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:24 AM, alberto abella <alberto.abella at okfn.es>
wrote:

>  I think that apart from the raw databases that IRM provides Alan has
> done most of the job, to gather a summarize data about the commitments.
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tFdLFTvo5cHlVJ3rjM17YYMgXc6UFrPrgJsN_dgMUMc/edit#gid=1090828196
>
> Don't you think that further treatment (visualization) on these data (kind
> of rank) would be an incentive for best practice sharing between countries?
>
> I know that Tim has much more experience than me (possibly Alan and Igbal
> you too) but it seemed to me a good idea ;-D
>
> Alberto
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> On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 05:49 -0400, Alan Hudson wrote:
>
> Definitely worth being in touch with Paul Massen on this. He's been giving
> some thought to ways of making the excellent IRM data more accessible and
> useful - visualisations, platforms etc.
>
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>
>  My post from May includes some links that people might want to explore
> too re IRM data and analysis
>
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>  http://alanhudson.info/?p=11589
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>
>  best
>
>  alan
>
>
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>  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Tim Davies <tim at timdavies.org.uk> wrote:
>
>  Hey Alberto, Igbal
>
> Have you see the dataset that the Open Government Partnership Independent
> Reporting Mechanism team are working on?
>
> http://www.opengovpartnership.org/independent-reporting-mechanism
>
>
>   They are currently working on coding up the commitments made by
> countries, and then sharing this data for others to analyse. Carrying out
> an analysis of this data might be a good first step.
>
>
>   They have been tagging commitments for level of ambition, as well as
> theme etc.
>
>
>
>   Because of the way the OGP works (voluntary commitments by countries,
> supposed to be based on consultation with civil society in country), I'm
> not sure a general ranking is possible or desirable - as countries should
> be encouraged to improve their levels of ambition and their engagement with
> local civil society, rather than to compete against some externally defined
> set of important open government ideas.
>
>
>   However, it might be possible to use tools like the Open Data Index to
> scrutinize open data commitments in particular - checking that all the
> datasets countries commit to publish are checked for those countries that
> commit to them. This sort of civil society provided evidence of meeting
> commitments would potentially feed well into the Independent Reporting
> Mechanism.
>
>
>   An alternative approach would be to take the commitments data, and try
> and create a platform to allow more public engagement with the commitments,
> crowdsourcing views on whether they are (a) ambitious enough; and (b) being
> applied and delivered on.
>
>
>   All the best
>
> Tim
>
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>   On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Igbal Safarov <iqbal1986 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>   Dear Alberto,
>
>
>
>    It is very good idea to compare and do raking between countries.
> Additionally, It is possible to develop "best practice" guideline based on
> the good experience of countries. This guideline can help the experts to
> meet and improve real situation.
>
>
>
>    Thank you,
>
>
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>    On 5 August 2014 04:41, alberto abella <alberto.abella at okfn.es> wrote:
>
>     I've talked with Laura James and in the local coord list that it
> would be good to assess globally all the national action plans that the
> different countries submit to the OGP.
>
> It is true that some assessment is done in OGP but the results are not
> ranked, neither clearly published. We (the coordinator of Ireland and
> Spain) agree that our national plans were 'quite improvable' (bullshit is
> another equivalent word to describe them but I want to be polite)
>
> We thought that because of the network of OKFN we could arrange such
> public assessment and make comparisons between countries.
>
> What do you think.
>
> Alberto
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