[open-government] Public assessment of the OGP national plans. Just an experiment with these data.
alberto abella
alberto.abella at okfn.es
Thu Aug 21 13:41:32 UTC 2014
Here you can find a simplified version of the experiment with OGP data.
(It remarks countries' achievements over methodology)
http://gobernamos.com/2014/08/21/open-government-countries-ranking-2013-based-on-ogp-data/
Alberto
On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 16:46 +0200, paul maassen wrote:
> Cool! Also might want to send to ogp at droups.org?
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2014 10:26 AM, "alberto abella" <alberto.abella at okfn.es>
> wrote:
>
> I have just made a tiny experiment about creating a
> countries' ranking based on their ambition in their OGP plans
> and their accomplishment.
> I insist, it is just an experiment in order to check if we
> would be able to create something serious and sound.
>
>
> Sorry Daniel, although I agree with you that it is not fair
> comparison, I could not resist the temptation to create it.
> http://gobernamos.com/2014/08/19/an-experiment-with-data-from-the-open-government-partnership/
>
> Alberto
>
>
> On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 10:00 +0200, paul maassen wrote:
>
> > Morning all,
> >
> >
> > I am working with Miska Knapek, who some of you in the OKF
> > crowd probably know, to get a good visualization tool up -
> > both expert and layman view - on the IRM data (enriched with
> > issue tags). Hard work, but slowly getting closer. Will be
> > ready end of September latest I hope. It really should help
> > us all to filter and sort the data, make comparisons of
> > countries, see if performance on certain issues is better
> > than on others etc. All based on the IRM data though, so
> > deeper analysis on specific topics, or ambition measured
> > against international standards etc would be a separate
> > exercise.
> >
> >
> > I know some of the OGP working groups are looking into
> > commitments made on their specific issue area. The fiscal
> > openness working group made td analysis public already.
> >
> >
> > Best
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 10 August 2014 18:47, alberto abella
> > <alberto.abella at okfn.es> wrote:
> >
> > My initial concern was that governments feel no
> > pressure from public opinion by providing non
> > ambitious action plans to the OGP, with no relevant
> > actions in them and even missing systematically
> > their commitments.
> >
> > Lots of efforts have been made by the IRM, Census
> > and other initiatives.
> > We have to make easy for the public opinion to
> > understand who is doing real efforts (and for
> > journalists to write an easy headline)
> >
> > Any tool to visualize the real efforts and
> > achievements vs action plans in the simplest form
> > (and a rank is just an example), will help to
> > understand who is doing real efforts and to put some
> > pressure the governments to meet their commitments.
> >
> > Alberto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 16:58 +0100, Daniela Mattern
> > wrote:
> >
> > > @Mor:
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 on syncing with the Census work.
> > >
> > >
> > > There has been some suggestion around providing
> > > more background information around the country
> > > that is evaluated in the census, for instance
> > >
> > >
> > > - existence and quality of FOIA
> > > - existence of OGP
> > > - existence of national Open Data Portal
> > >
> > >
> > > To my mind a good place for this information would
> > > be a wiki, apart from this we can of course have
> > > spreadsheets for comparison between countries. In
> > > the census we then could have a link to a wiki
> > > page ...
> > >
> > >
> > > I am happy to participate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniela
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6 August 2014 16:24, alberto abella
> > > <alberto.abella at okfn.es> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think that apart from the raw databases
> > > that IRM provides Alan has done most of
> > > the job, to gather a summarize data about
> > > the commitments.
> > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tFdLFTvo5cHlVJ3rjM17YYMgXc6UFrPrgJsN_dgMUMc/edit#gid=1090828196
> > >
> > > Don't you think that further treatment
> > > (visualization) on these data (kind of
> > > rank) would be an incentive for best
> > > practice sharing between countries?
> > >
> > > I know that Tim has much more experience
> > > than me (possibly Alan and Igbal you too)
> > > but it seemed to me a good idea ;-D
> > >
> > > Alberto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 05:49 -0400, Alan
> > > Hudson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Definitely worth being in touch with
> > > > Paul Massen on this. He's been giving
> > > > some thought to ways of making the
> > > > excellent IRM data more accessible and
> > > > useful - visualisations, platforms etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My post from May includes some links
> > > > that people might want to explore too re
> > > > IRM data and analysis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://alanhudson.info/?p=11589
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > best
> > > > alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Tim
> > > > Davies <tim at timdavies.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Alberto, Igbal
> > > >
> > > > Have you see the dataset that
> > > > the Open Government Partnership
> > > > Independent Reporting Mechanism
> > > > team are working on?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.opengovpartnership.org/independent-reporting-mechanism
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are currently working on
> > > > coding up the commitments made
> > > > by countries, and then sharing
> > > > this data for others to analyse.
> > > > Carrying out an analysis of this
> > > > data might be a good first
> > > > step.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They have been tagging
> > > > commitments for level of
> > > > ambition, as well as theme etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Because of the way the OGP works
> > > > (voluntary commitments by
> > > > countries, supposed to be based
> > > > on consultation with civil
> > > > society in country), I'm not
> > > > sure a general ranking is
> > > > possible or desirable - as
> > > > countries should be encouraged
> > > > to improve their levels of
> > > > ambition and their engagement
> > > > with local civil society, rather
> > > > than to compete against some
> > > > externally defined set of
> > > > important open government
> > > > ideas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, it might be possible to
> > > > use tools like the Open Data
> > > > Index to scrutinize open data
> > > > commitments in particular -
> > > > checking that all the datasets
> > > > countries commit to publish are
> > > > checked for those countries that
> > > > commit to them. This sort of
> > > > civil society provided evidence
> > > > of meeting commitments would
> > > > potentially feed well into the
> > > > Independent Reporting Mechanism.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An alternative approach would be
> > > > to take the commitments data,
> > > > and try and create a platform to
> > > > allow more public engagement
> > > > with the commitments,
> > > > crowdsourcing views on whether
> > > > they are (a) ambitious enough;
> > > > and (b) being applied and
> > > > delivered on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM,
> > > > Igbal Safarov
> > > > <iqbal1986 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Alberto,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is very good idea to
> > > > compare and do raking
> > > > between countries.
> > > > Additionally, It is
> > > > possible to develop
> > > > "best practice"
> > > > guideline based on the
> > > > good experience of
> > > > countries. This
> > > > guideline can help the
> > > > experts to meet and
> > > > improve real situation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5 August 2014 04:41,
> > > > alberto abella
> > > > <alberto.abella at okfn.es>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've talked with
> > > > Laura James and
> > > > in the local
> > > > coord list that
> > > > it would be good
> > > > to assess
> > > > globally all the
> > > > national action
> > > > plans that the
> > > > different
> > > > countries submit
> > > > to the OGP.
> > > >
> > > > It is true that
> > > > some assessment
> > > > is done in OGP
> > > > but the results
> > > > are not ranked,
> > > > neither clearly
> > > > published. We
> > > > (the coordinator
> > > > of Ireland and
> > > > Spain) agree
> > > > that our
> > > > national plans
> > > > were 'quite
> > > > improvable' (bullshit is another equivalent word to describe them but I want to be polite)
> > > >
> > > > We thought that
> > > > because of the
> > > > network of OKFN
> > > > we could arrange
> > > > such public
> > > > assessment and
> > > > make comparisons
> > > > between
> > > > countries.
> > > >
> > > > What do you
> > > > think.
> > > >
> > > > Alberto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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