[open-humanities] OpenLiterature v1.0 - let's do a reboot!

Wed Feb 25 11:12:06 UTC 2015

On 23 February 2015 at 14:55, Seth Woodworth <seth at sethish.com> wrote:

> I have a project where I have forked Project Gutenberg to Github (
> https://gitenberg.github.io/).  On Github we are starting to collectively
> improve the copyediting and formatting of PG books.  We are likely going to
> be using asciidoc as our base markup format document.
>
> I would love it if OpenLiterature editors/contributors could make
> copy-edits or formatting edits in GITenberg and have the change end up on
> OpenLiterature.  I think there are tangible benefits to basing on top of
> GITenberg, having a source git commit to be able to point to to denote your
> text document version would be useful alone.
>

I think there could be real synergies here. e.g. if GITenberg started
storing texts as Textus structure (and perhaps as Data Packages) that could
be the raw source for OpenLiterature. This not only builds on our original
approach for OpenShakespeare where we had texts in git, but also on the
recent work with "data" Data Packages both for Core Datasets project
<http://okfnlabs.org/blog/2015/01/03/data-curators-wanted-for-core-datasets.html>
and
the storage and micro-services approach for OpenSpending
<http://labs.openspending.org/osep/01-approach-and-architecture-of-openspending.html>
(in
OpenSpending we now store data as Budget Data Packages on s3).

So basically GITenberg could become the core raw text repo that powers
OpenLiterature.

Is this of interest to the OpenLiterature folks?
>

Very much so IMO as per above.

Rufus

>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:34 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
> james.harriman-smith at cantab.net> wrote:
>
>> Good points Iain. And it'd be great if you could give a little time to
>> this once you've made it through those deadlines.
>>
>> To carry on the discussion, with a bit of reprise for those joining us
>> here. My suggested MVP was:
>>
>> Agreed by Iain:
>> 1. Upload of texts in a simple format, ideally one used on Gutenberg
>> 2. Allow those texts to be annotated by users publicly
>>
>> Questioned:
>> 3. Make annotations and texts searchable
>>
>> I think #3 is very important: it would allow someone to use the platform
>> for research far more effectively. I, for instance, often find myself
>> looking for ideas in my notes, jotted down in response to a passage, and no
>> longer remembering the phrase that triggered my idea.
>>
>> That said, I don't think #3 is essential. Open Literature can be
>> demonstrated without it, and will still be useful. What do others think
>> here?
>>
>> J
>>
>> On 23 February 2015 at 09:51, Iain Emsley <iainemsley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> @rufus , +1 for the reminder and enthusiasm :)
>>>
>>> @james: a discussion of the minimal viable product would be useful to
>>> provide a goal. Is #3, the search a first to do, or a rapid second? Whilst
>>> I agree that it is necessary, do we need it initially? #2 is the part where
>>> my earlier effort stalled in terms of integrating the existing JS and
>>> Wordpress.
>>>
>>> As with others, I'm tied up at the moment but _should_ have more time at
>>> the end of next month when some deadlines have passed by.
>>>
>>> Iain
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 7:32 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
>>> james.harriman-smith at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear list, Rufus, John,
>>>>
>>>> @John: it's great to see some maintenance on the Open Humanities
>>>> collection of websites happening, and a wiki booted for our activities.
>>>>
>>>> @Rufus, all: it's true that Open Literature has gone dormant of late,
>>>> and definitely needs a reboot. I'm afraid that, like John though, I don't
>>>> have time to give at the moment, as I'm writing up my thesis and trying to
>>>> secure some kind of paid academic employment for next year.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I think we could at least email about the minimum viable
>>>> product for Open Literature, to know what we have to do when we all have a
>>>> little more time.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start that in my next mail.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 09:19, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15 February 2015 at 15:10, John Levin <john at anterotesis.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regret I have very limited time - and am out of the UK - at the
>>>>>> moment. In any case it seems that the work to be done is mainly technical,
>>>>>> coding, at this point. Once Textus is up and running, then the non-techie
>>>>>> humanists can get stuck in, putting up texts etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say there is need right now for a lot of *non*-techincal
>>>>> engagement - from being site editor, to blogging, tweeting, writing new
>>>>> essays, doing user testing, coordinating, organizing events. So would
>>>>> definitely welcome non-technical folks here :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of side-matters:
>>>>>> 1: Is this the OL twitter account? https://twitter.com/OpenLiterature
>>>>>> Is anyone looking after it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No - but we could (i also wonder if we should move over
>>>>> OpenShakespeare to here since it already has quite a few followers)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2: I have cleared spam and pending spam from the OL & Open Hums
>>>>>> wordpress sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3: Fixed the links in this post:
>>>>>> http://openliterature.net/2011/09/05/shakespeare-and-the-internet/
>>>>>> which were directing to Open Shakespeare & 404ing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic - and thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/02/2015 14:39, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to restart the conversation on getting OpenLiterature v1.0
>>>>>>> launched. In terms of key steps:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Identify the minimal viable product for OpenLiterature.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This also relates to minimal viable "Textus" platform to power this
>>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>> background and slide deck see http://okfnlabs.org/textus/). At
>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>> the key things would be finishing the viewer JS lib (we are 80%
>>>>>>> there)
>>>>>>> and integrating this into the wordpress site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Requirement: a discussion on this list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already have an issue list
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/okfn/openliterature.net/issues> that could be
>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Estimate work and skills needed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My guess is we are talking about 3-6 person weeks here to get to MVP
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> though we would need to properly estimate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Recruit team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anticipate roles like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Product Owner
>>>>>>> - Cat herder (scrum master)
>>>>>>> - Site Editor
>>>>>>> - Designer
>>>>>>> - Frontend JS (viewer)
>>>>>>> - Wordpress Plugin write (PHP)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably work asynchronously around a series of sprints (e.g. a few
>>>>>>> weekend or Saturday sprints)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who's interested? In particular, who would be interested in
>>>>>>> coordinating
>>>>>>> the initial phase of getting us all moving again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> http://www.anterotesis.com
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/anterotesis
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