[Open-Legislation] [OKFest-Coord] Parliamentary Monitoring
erik.josefsson at europarl.europa.eu
Fri May 18 20:57:46 UTC 2012
Thank you Fabrizio!
I hope some material in the "hub-archive" can be useful:
Basically, the question is how TFEU 218.10 has been applied throughout
*"The European Parliament shall be immediately and fully informed at
all stages of the procedure."*
Who is the "European Parliament"? What exactly does "immediately",
"fully" and "stages" mean?
As an example, is "initialling" a "stage"? "Initialling" was a key
concept in the 2010 November resolution (see ALDE and Greens/EFA
And as you know, TFEU 218.10 and the framework agreement are still
relevant in the ACTA procedure. As far as I know Lehne/JURI has not yet
received an answer from the Commission
Greens/EFA received an answer on 10 May
I am happy to assist further inquiries.
On 05/18/2012 01:06 PM, Fabrizio Scrollini wrote:
> There seems to be a great stream of research on ACTA, and the way it
> is negotiated.
> On the specific case of your negotiations you probably will not be
> surprised that Europe is not alone. The TPP process is apparently very
> similar in terms of secrecy. A Chilean NGO Derechos Digitales tried to
> get more information with not much success. Here is the latest on that
> Chile http://www.derechosdigitales.org/2012/05/16/notpp-reporte-sobre-nueva-ronda-de-negociaciones-del-tpp-en-dallas/,
> unfortunately in Spanish.
> Best wishes,
> On 18 May 2012 09:43, JOSEFSSON Erik
> <erik.josefsson at europarl.europa.eu
> <mailto:erik.josefsson at europarl.europa.eu>> wrote:
> Can someone please do a PhD on TFEU 218.10 and ACTA?
> It's pretty urgent.
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> Rubrik: [Open-Legislation] [OKFest-Coord] Parliamentary Monitoring
> Datum: fre, maj 18, 2012 00:27
> Hi all,
> Some of you might know me, but just in case Fabrizio from Uruguay,
> living in London for a while, doing a PhD on FOI.
> There is a group of Uruguayans collaborating with others, on the
> Parliamentary monitoring stream and they will go to Paris (me as
> well) and to Helsinki (we are trying to sort out how)
> In terms of streams I think if you have a big enough crowd to
> organise a Parliamentary Monitoring stream you should go ahead, as
> really good outcomes could come up from there. The challenges of
> this stream IMHO is about convergence of technical standards on
> one side, as well as building up the right set of incentives to
> collaborate with other PMO that are already doing great stuff on
> the field
> If not the umbrealla Open Democracy can also include other
> initiatives (like FOI alaveteli kind of initiatives) or electoral
> speech verification. This is also good,but different from just
> focusing on PMO.
> Best wishes,
> On 17 May 2012 22:33, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com
> <mailto:antti.poikola at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Benjamin and others,
> don't worry too much about the Topic Stream complexities.
> Basically it means that each stream has bunch of people (Guest
> Programme Planners) doing the actual planning for that topic
> and we have now the second call for proposals where people
> (like you) may submit content -ideas for the streams (
> http://okfestival.org/call-for-proposals/ )
> From Finland it seems that possibly Juha Yrjölä or someone
> else from the Kansanmuisti (Finnish Parliament Monitoring
> Organization) will be in Paris, maybe you could try to find
> each other and suggest some kind of discussion continuum
> between Paris and Helsinki.
> The Open Democracy and Civic Movements -topic stream people
> are having discussion about this in their planning Facebook
> Group If you wish to participate (someone needs to add you to
> the group)
> On 17.5.2012 20:02, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
>>> Are there any people on the lists who already know that will participate
>>> both Paris and Helsinki -events?
>> At least one person from Regards Citoyens (organising the conference
>> in Paris) should be in Helsinki as well, but as we precised in our
>> application, as we all are volunteers, we probably won't be able to be
>> there for the full week but only for 2 or 3 days.
>> I believe we are not the only ones in this situation, so I think the
>> stream thing (which I agree with Daniel sounds quite complex at the
>> moment) should be used to focus each event related to the stream
>> within only a couple days, so that people interested especially in one
>> or two particular streams can attend them without having to be there
>> the full week.
>> Regarding organisation of this, I guess the regular
>> keynotes/presentations/workgroup sessions/hacksessions/discussiontime
>> should be good?
>> As an outcome of the previous PMO meeting with Tom and Andrew among
>> plenty others, and as we envision the Paris event, I believe that two
>> important issues should be discussed during this stream as a follow-up
>> : how to collaborate between common projects over the world, both on
>> the technical (like with PopIt from mySociety) and advocating (around
>> the current draft of the declaration for open parliaments) aspects.
>> For french readers, we've just posted a blogpost on this here :
>> Benjamin for Regards Citoyens
>>> On 16.5.2012 23:28, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>> Hi Lucy,
>>>> there was a thread (WG lists CC'ed) about the idea to organize some
>>>> sessions around "open parliamentary / legislation data" as a
>>>> continuation of the debate that goes from PMO conference in DC to the
>>>> upcoming Paris conference.
>>>> I think this is a great idea and we should try to make it happen. Maybe
>>>> people involved (Benjamin, Tom, Andrew and others) would help coordinating
>>>> this a bit?
>>>> In regards to the streams: This has all become a bit complex. I understand
>>>> it all makes perfect sense from the org point of view, but - to be honest -
>>>> I don't care under which "stream" good things are happening - as long as
>>>> they are actually happening :)
>>>> Lets push things fwd!
>>>> 1. we agreed that the term "parliamentary informatics" actually suites
>>>> 2. http://www.ndi.org/node/18544
>>>> 3. http://www.lafabriquedelaloi.fr/
>>>> On 16 May 2012, at 19:46, Lucy Chambers wrote:
>>>>> There has just been a very good question raised in the Open Democracy
>>>>> Facebook group:
>>>>> "Will this stream have a Parliamentary monitoring element?" - I just
>>>>> quickly wanted to check whether any of the other streams (Government,
>>>>> Legislation etc.) were considering an element like this?
>>>>> If so, please shout out - otherwise we shall progress with discussing
>>>>> including it in the Open Democracy Stream!
>>>>> Lucy Chambers
>>>>> Community Coordinator,
>>>>> OpenSpending& Data Journalism
>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>> Skype: lucyfediachambers
>>>>> Twitter: @lucyfedia
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