[Open-Legislation] French civil code on git
s at ctrlc.hu
Wed Apr 8 11:09:22 UTC 2015
On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Francis Davey wrote:
> 2015-04-08 11:20 GMT+01:00 stef <s at ctrlc.hu>:
> > well the data is there, to show diffs, you really don't need git. by using
> > github, you only 1/ put yourself at the mercy of a commercial service
> > provider
> The data may be "there" but I don't know where "there" is for French
> legislation - so this is nice because I can find it easily.
what are you arguing here? that you find stuff easier with github, than with
a search engine? would you do so if no one sent a mail about this project?
> > 2/ externalize the development costs of a proper userinterface for doing
> > diffs. 3/ you ignore at4am.
> I spent 5 minutes at at4am and have no idea what is usable there.
i guess this topic demands a bit more than 5 minutes. maybe erik will fill you
in. but this wants to be a tool for exactly this purpose that git is abused
for by some people. of course it's not a consumer-grade, and agreed i'd never
touch it myself. but then i don't want to whatever the unclear goals of doing
> has a two word README that doesn't tell me what I am supposed to do with
> the source once I have got it. Presumably there's a java applet or
> something that I run somehow.
well, yes, it's something i wouldn't poke with a 42 foot stick, but still, if
you're looking for a tool, this should be it i believe. or regardscitoyens
visualisation tool for amendments, if you are in a sad situation as the french
with their patch amendments.
> There's just nothing obvious on that site on *how* I actually make use of
> anything there, so I hope that explains why I might be pleased to see some
> other tool that I do understand how to use.
i hope you are the only one who wants to spend less than 5 minutes
understanding an issue and then jump right into the middle of legislating it. ;)
> So, indeed, github is a commercial service, but so are most web services.
> At least it uses a standard system (git) which can be used elsewhere.
yes, like a hammer for hitting nails.
> > > Github also makes it easy to clone the corpus elsewhere.
> > that is a feature of git, not github. also why would you do that? how
> > often is
> > that a requirement, and how often is git data the best format to do further
> > processing?
> What alternatives are there?
what exactly is your goal?
> I mean ones I can actually use right now and
> that don't require me to write extensive code to access? I had a look at
> Akoma Ntoso and decided that it was hopelessly wrong in design for
> representing actual legal texts and haven't bothered to look further.
i agree, the UN should stick with angryletterwriting.
> Being able to clone onto my desktop means I can read it when I am offline,
> simply, without having to worry about a brand new bit of software and
raw data? you know, the french senate does postgres dumps. much better format
for datahandling. also useful for offline hand, and quite mature framework and
> > to me this looks like people with hammers running around and seeing nails
> > everywhere.
> Not me.
did you ever put legislation into github?
otr fp: https://www.ctrlc.hu/~stef/otr.txt
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