[open-linguistics] Open Linguistics workshop/meetup at OKCon 2011?

Sun May 29 10:18:50 UTC 2011

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Richard Littauer
<richard.littauer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>>
>> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles describing
>> their open datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
>
> I think this is worth considering. I think that it falls within the scope of
> the OKF, and would be justifiable from that standpoint. Further, I think
> that certain aspects of Linguistics are worth putting in the public domain,
> and that they would be justifiable to any linguist. The amount of blogs
> about idioms, morphology, phonetics research, and in particular
> sociolinguistics are a testament to a willingness among linguists to talk
> about things which interest them, and to a desire to put things into the
> public domain.
> The difficulty is identifying a) where legality lies, as far as ownership of
> data (with the funder? the researcher? the speaker? the community?) b) what
> the author is willing to write up and give out publicly. Supplementary data
> supplied for published papers is a good example - that doesn't necessarily
> need to be locked within the publishers domain, and often isn't, but can be
> used in it's own right by future researchers. Methodology is a case where if
> we come at it from a pedagogical angle, it makes more sense for people to
> give their knowledge away - for the sake of students and prestige is enough
> of a reason to give away what are, after all, not that important trade
> secrets. I suspect that anything involving 'intent' will be trickier.
> Some presentations on this would be great, I feel.

Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a
stub for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
input, etc:

http://ideas.okfn.org/

> Oh - I'm new. My name is Richard Littauer, graduated MA Linguistics from
> Edinburgh in two weeks. I'm trying to see if I can come to Berlin, depends
> on my current employer and if they think that me talking about opening up
> ecological workflows into the public domain would be a justifiable expense.

Welcome Richard! :-)

I very much hope you're able to come to OKCon. Your project sounds
very interesting and I'd love to hear more about it!

Have you also seen the travel bursaries?

http://blog.okfn.org/2011/05/19/okcon-2011-travel-bursaries-early-bird-tickets-available/

All the best,

Jonathan

> Richard
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Cornelius Puschmann
> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
>>
>> Pablo,
>> I find this whitepaper from (Science/Neuro/Creative)Commons to be a good
>> starting point, at least when it comes to the legal side of things:
>> http://neurocommons.org/report/data-publication.pdf
>> (see also http://cyberling.org/node/31)
>>
>> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles describing
>> their oepn datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
>> Should this be an all-purpose OKFN data journal or something discipline
>> specific in your view? I agree that publishing new data should be tied to
>> the notion of a journal/publication -- people sitting on valuable datasets
>> will rarely make then available unless they feel it's in the form of a
>> "real", citable publication.
>> A colleague in communications who studies the Internet's effect on science
>> conducted a survey recently in which he asked people (among other things)
>> about their readiness to make data freely available. The results were not
>> very uplifting: about 10% of the respondents would share openly, some with a
>> password (30%), the majority won't share at all.
>> Best,
>> Cornelius
>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in hearing about a set of minimal guidelines
>>> for releasing open linguistics datasets. I am willing to do some lobbying
>>> with authors of datasets I use to release them more openly, but I wouldn't
>>> know what to tell them, e.g. w.r.t. licensing.
>>>
>>> I also assume it would be soothing for them to hear that their efforts
>>> would be credited somehow, e.g. as citations. So maybe it would be worth
>>> considering something along the lines of an online journal by the OKF that
>>> allows people to publish articles describing their oepn datasets,
>>> methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
>>>
>>> Just thinking out loud here.
>>>
>>> Is there anybody you know that could speak of things of the sort?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Pablo
>>>
>>> On May 28, 2011 5:50 PM, "Cornelius Puschmann"
>>> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
>>> > Hey guys,
>>> >
>>> > I'd love to participate in a meeting or workshop of the WG at OKCon,
>>> > but
>>> > unfortunately I'll be in Australia on the 30 June/1 July. I hope to
>>> > participate a bit more in the future though and will continue to
>>> > advertise
>>> > the group...
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Cornelius
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Jonathan Gray
>>> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sebastian Hellmann
>>> >> <hellmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>>> >> > If more people join, we could actually make a workshop. Christian
>>> >> > could
>>> >> > give a presentation about OLiA and POWLA and I could say something
>>> >> about
>>> >> > NIF, NLP2RDF and the conversion of Wiktionary to RDF
>>> >>
>>> >> (Cc'ing okfn-discuss too!)
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone interested in an open linguistics meeting at OKCon 2011?
>>> >>
>>> >> http://okcon.okfnpad.org/linguistics
>>> >>
>>> >> If you think there should be a session on open linguistics at OKCon
>>> >> and you'd be interested in attending, please add your name and ideas
>>> >> to the link above!
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >>
>>> >> Jonathan
>>> >>
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>> Department for English Language and Linguistics
>> Heinrich-Heine-Universität Düsseldorf
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