[open-linguistics] Open Linguistics workshop/meetup at OKCon 2011?

Mon May 30 09:58:25 UTC 2011

> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a stub
> for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
> input, etc
>

Done.
http://ideas.okfn.org/ideas/155/okfn-open-scientific-data-journal

Feedback, forwarding, tweeting, etc. encouraged!

Cheers,
Pablo

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:

> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Richard Littauer
> <richard.littauer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >>
> >> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
> >> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
> describing
> >> their open datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
> etc.?
> >
> > I think this is worth considering. I think that it falls within the scope
> of
> > the OKF, and would be justifiable from that standpoint. Further, I think
> > that certain aspects of Linguistics are worth putting in the public
> domain,
> > and that they would be justifiable to any linguist. The amount of blogs
> > about idioms, morphology, phonetics research, and in particular
> > sociolinguistics are a testament to a willingness among linguists to talk
> > about things which interest them, and to a desire to put things into the
> > public domain.
> > The difficulty is identifying a) where legality lies, as far as ownership
> of
> > data (with the funder? the researcher? the speaker? the community?) b)
> what
> > the author is willing to write up and give out publicly. Supplementary
> data
> > supplied for published papers is a good example - that doesn't
> necessarily
> > need to be locked within the publishers domain, and often isn't, but can
> be
> > used in it's own right by future researchers. Methodology is a case where
> if
> > we come at it from a pedagogical angle, it makes more sense for people to
> > give their knowledge away - for the sake of students and prestige is
> enough
> > of a reason to give away what are, after all, not that important trade
> > secrets. I suspect that anything involving 'intent' will be trickier.
> > Some presentations on this would be great, I feel.
>
> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a
> stub for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
> input, etc:
>
> http://ideas.okfn.org/
>
> > Oh - I'm new. My name is Richard Littauer, graduated MA Linguistics from
> > Edinburgh in two weeks. I'm trying to see if I can come to Berlin,
> depends
> > on my current employer and if they think that me talking about opening up
> > ecological workflows into the public domain would be a justifiable
> expense.
>
> Welcome Richard! :-)
>
> I very much hope you're able to come to OKCon. Your project sounds
> very interesting and I'd love to hear more about it!
>
> Have you also seen the travel bursaries?
>
>
> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/05/19/okcon-2011-travel-bursaries-early-bird-tickets-available/
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> > Richard
> >
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Cornelius Puschmann
> > <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pablo,
> >> I find this whitepaper from (Science/Neuro/Creative)Commons to be a good
> >> starting point, at least when it comes to the legal side of things:
> >> http://neurocommons.org/report/data-publication.pdf
> >> (see also http://cyberling.org/node/31)
> >>
> >> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
> >> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
> describing
> >> their oepn datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
> etc.?
> >> Should this be an all-purpose OKFN data journal or something discipline
> >> specific in your view? I agree that publishing new data should be tied
> to
> >> the notion of a journal/publication -- people sitting on valuable
> datasets
> >> will rarely make then available unless they feel it's in the form of a
> >> "real", citable publication.
> >> A colleague in communications who studies the Internet's effect on
> science
> >> conducted a survey recently in which he asked people (among other
> things)
> >> about their readiness to make data freely available. The results were
> not
> >> very uplifting: about 10% of the respondents would share openly, some
> with a
> >> password (30%), the majority won't share at all.
> >> Best,
> >> Cornelius
> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would be very interested in hearing about a set of minimal guidelines
> >>> for releasing open linguistics datasets. I am willing to do some
> lobbying
> >>> with authors of datasets I use to release them more openly, but I
> wouldn't
> >>> know what to tell them, e.g. w.r.t. licensing.
> >>>
> >>> I also assume it would be soothing for them to hear that their efforts
> >>> would be credited somehow, e.g. as citations. So maybe it would be
> worth
> >>> considering something along the lines of an online journal by the OKF
> that
> >>> allows people to publish articles describing their oepn datasets,
> >>> methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
> >>>
> >>> Just thinking out loud here.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anybody you know that could speak of things of the sort?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Pablo
> >>>
> >>> On May 28, 2011 5:50 PM, "Cornelius Puschmann"
> >>> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
> >>> > Hey guys,
> >>> >
> >>> > I'd love to participate in a meeting or workshop of the WG at OKCon,
> >>> > but
> >>> > unfortunately I'll be in Australia on the 30 June/1 July. I hope to
> >>> > participate a bit more in the future though and will continue to
> >>> > advertise
> >>> > the group...
> >>> >
> >>> > Best,
> >>> >
> >>> > Cornelius
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Jonathan Gray
> >>> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sebastian Hellmann
> >>> >> <hellmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
> >>> >> > If more people join, we could actually make a workshop. Christian
> >>> >> > could
> >>> >> > give a presentation about OLiA and POWLA and I could say something
> >>> >> about
> >>> >> > NIF, NLP2RDF and the conversion of Wiktionary to RDF
> >>> >>
> >>> >> (Cc'ing okfn-discuss too!)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anyone interested in an open linguistics meeting at OKCon 2011?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://okcon.okfnpad.org/linguistics
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If you think there should be a session on open linguistics at OKCon
> >>> >> and you'd be interested in attending, please add your name and ideas
> >>> >> to the link above!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jonathan
> >>> >>
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >
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> >> Dr. Cornelius Puschmann, M.A.
> >> Department for English Language and Linguistics
> >> Heinrich-Heine-Universität Düsseldorf
> >> Building 23.11, Level 1, Room 21
> >> Universitätsstrasse 1
> >> 40225 Düsseldorf
> >> Germany
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