[open-linguistics] Open Linguistics workshop/meetup at OKCon 2011?

Mon May 30 10:15:43 UTC 2011

Also perhaps you might consider cross posting this to:

http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science

I'm sure people on that list might be interested! :-)

J.

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a stub
>> for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
>> input, etc
>
> Done.
> http://ideas.okfn.org/ideas/155/okfn-open-scientific-data-journal
>
> Feedback, forwarding, tweeting, etc. encouraged!
> Cheers,
> Pablo
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Richard Littauer
>> <richard.littauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >>
>> >> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>> >> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
>> >> describing
>> >> their open datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
>> >> etc.?
>> >
>> > I think this is worth considering. I think that it falls within the
>> > scope of
>> > the OKF, and would be justifiable from that standpoint. Further, I think
>> > that certain aspects of Linguistics are worth putting in the public
>> > domain,
>> > and that they would be justifiable to any linguist. The amount of blogs
>> > about idioms, morphology, phonetics research, and in particular
>> > sociolinguistics are a testament to a willingness among linguists to
>> > talk
>> > about things which interest them, and to a desire to put things into the
>> > public domain.
>> > The difficulty is identifying a) where legality lies, as far as
>> > ownership of
>> > data (with the funder? the researcher? the speaker? the community?) b)
>> > what
>> > the author is willing to write up and give out publicly. Supplementary
>> > data
>> > supplied for published papers is a good example - that doesn't
>> > necessarily
>> > need to be locked within the publishers domain, and often isn't, but can
>> > be
>> > used in it's own right by future researchers. Methodology is a case
>> > where if
>> > we come at it from a pedagogical angle, it makes more sense for people
>> > to
>> > give their knowledge away - for the sake of students and prestige is
>> > enough
>> > of a reason to give away what are, after all, not that important trade
>> > secrets. I suspect that anything involving 'intent' will be trickier.
>> > Some presentations on this would be great, I feel.
>>
>> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a
>> stub for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
>> input, etc:
>>
>> http://ideas.okfn.org/
>>
>> > Oh - I'm new. My name is Richard Littauer, graduated MA Linguistics from
>> > Edinburgh in two weeks. I'm trying to see if I can come to Berlin,
>> > depends
>> > on my current employer and if they think that me talking about opening
>> > up
>> > ecological workflows into the public domain would be a justifiable
>> > expense.
>>
>> Welcome Richard! :-)
>>
>> I very much hope you're able to come to OKCon. Your project sounds
>> very interesting and I'd love to hear more about it!
>>
>> Have you also seen the travel bursaries?
>>
>>
>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/05/19/okcon-2011-travel-bursaries-early-bird-tickets-available/
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> > Richard
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Cornelius Puschmann
>> > <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Pablo,
>> >> I find this whitepaper from (Science/Neuro/Creative)Commons to be a
>> >> good
>> >> starting point, at least when it comes to the legal side of things:
>> >> http://neurocommons.org/report/data-publication.pdf
>> >> (see also http://cyberling.org/node/31)
>> >>
>> >> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>> >> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
>> >> describing
>> >> their oepn datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
>> >> etc.?
>> >> Should this be an all-purpose OKFN data journal or something discipline
>> >> specific in your view? I agree that publishing new data should be tied
>> >> to
>> >> the notion of a journal/publication -- people sitting on valuable
>> >> datasets
>> >> will rarely make then available unless they feel it's in the form of a
>> >> "real", citable publication.
>> >> A colleague in communications who studies the Internet's effect on
>> >> science
>> >> conducted a survey recently in which he asked people (among other
>> >> things)
>> >> about their readiness to make data freely available. The results were
>> >> not
>> >> very uplifting: about 10% of the respondents would share openly, some
>> >> with a
>> >> password (30%), the majority won't share at all.
>> >> Best,
>> >> Cornelius
>> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I would be very interested in hearing about a set of minimal
>> >>> guidelines
>> >>> for releasing open linguistics datasets. I am willing to do some
>> >>> lobbying
>> >>> with authors of datasets I use to release them more openly, but I
>> >>> wouldn't
>> >>> know what to tell them, e.g. w.r.t. licensing.
>> >>>
>> >>> I also assume it would be soothing for them to hear that their efforts
>> >>> would be credited somehow, e.g. as citations. So maybe it would be
>> >>> worth
>> >>> considering something along the lines of an online journal by the OKF
>> >>> that
>> >>> allows people to publish articles describing their oepn datasets,
>> >>> methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
>> >>>
>> >>> Just thinking out loud here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there anybody you know that could speak of things of the sort?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Pablo
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 28, 2011 5:50 PM, "Cornelius Puschmann"
>> >>> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
>> >>> > Hey guys,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'd love to participate in a meeting or workshop of the WG at OKCon,
>> >>> > but
>> >>> > unfortunately I'll be in Australia on the 30 June/1 July. I hope to
>> >>> > participate a bit more in the future though and will continue to
>> >>> > advertise
>> >>> > the group...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cornelius
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Jonathan Gray
>> >>> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sebastian Hellmann
>> >>> >> <hellmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>> >>> >> > If more people join, we could actually make a workshop. Christian
>> >>> >> > could
>> >>> >> > give a presentation about OLiA and POWLA and I could say
>> >>> >> > something
>> >>> >> about
>> >>> >> > NIF, NLP2RDF and the conversion of Wiktionary to RDF
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> (Cc'ing okfn-discuss too!)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Anyone interested in an open linguistics meeting at OKCon 2011?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://okcon.okfnpad.org/linguistics
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> If you think there should be a session on open linguistics at OKCon
>> >>> >> and you'd be interested in attending, please add your name and
>> >>> >> ideas
>> >>> >> to the link above!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> All the best,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Jonathan
>> >>> >>
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>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
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>> >>> >
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>> >> Department for English Language and Linguistics
>> >> Heinrich-Heine-Universität Düsseldorf
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