[open-linguistics] Workshop on June 30th

Tue May 31 11:20:01 UTC 2011

Hi,
I read through all the mails and tried to bring some order into the chaos:
1. I reserved a time slot on June 30th (first day) from 14:00 until 17:00.
We should discuss about filling it with good content now.

My proposal is the following:
We split the time in 2 parts, the first one will be for presentations, 
maybe 2 hours:
Currently we have 4 presentation proposals:
Chiarcos -  Modelling linguistic corpora and their annotations with OWL/DL
Nordhoff - The Glottolog/Langdoc Project: Publishing a bibliographical 
database of 200,000 references for 7,000 languages as Linked Data
Hellmann - NIF: NLP Interchange Format
Cimiano - Linking lexical resources and ontologies on the Semantic Web 
with lemon
Tasovac - Open Data as an enabler for a globale lexicographic infrastructure
@Tasovac (I rehashed the title from your email)
@all: feel free to add/edit here: http://okcon.okfnpad.org/linguistics

For 2 hours, we could either have 6 presentations with 10+10 minutes 
(presentation/discussion)
or 8 presentation with 10+5

Then we can have a part where we discuss one of the following issues:
- Incentives for publishing data: Requirement analysis for a Scientific 
Journal as a forum for publishing data
- Best practices for publishing Open Linguistic Data

The second part will be a mixture between panel and Q&A. At any time 
people can come to the front and make a statement and then we discuss it.
E.g.  Sebastian Nordhoff could tell about the  database journal for 
linguistic typology and we try to generalize the approach.
Pablo might tell about his intentions with the Journal and how he 
envisions it.

Please give me some feedback on this, so I can prepare a preliminary 
workshop programme, which we can send around.

I thought about the relation between technology and Open Data and found 
answers looking at Tim Berners-Lees Coffee Cup:
http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html
According to the cup, Open Data is the basis/enabler for technology. 
Maybe we can create an upward spiral. Technology can showcase what is 
possible with Open Data.
But is this already the incentive to open up more data? I think a puzzle 
piece is still missing. This can be one more topic: How is it possible 
to create an upward spiral with Open Data and technology?

Cheers,
Sebastian

Am 30.05.2011 12:15, schrieb Jonathan Gray:
> Also perhaps you might consider cross posting this to:
>
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
>
> I'm sure people on that list might be interested! :-)
>
> J.
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Pablo Mendes<pablomendes at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a stub
>>> for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
>>> input, etc
>> Done.
>> http://ideas.okfn.org/ideas/155/okfn-open-scientific-data-journal
>>
>> Feedback, forwarding, tweeting, etc. encouraged!
>> Cheers,
>> Pablo
>>
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Jonathan Gray<jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Richard Littauer
>>> <richard.littauer at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>>>>> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
>>>>> describing
>>>>> their open datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
>>>>> etc.?
>>>> I think this is worth considering. I think that it falls within the
>>>> scope of
>>>> the OKF, and would be justifiable from that standpoint. Further, I think
>>>> that certain aspects of Linguistics are worth putting in the public
>>>> domain,
>>>> and that they would be justifiable to any linguist. The amount of blogs
>>>> about idioms, morphology, phonetics research, and in particular
>>>> sociolinguistics are a testament to a willingness among linguists to
>>>> talk
>>>> about things which interest them, and to a desire to put things into the
>>>> public domain.
>>>> The difficulty is identifying a) where legality lies, as far as
>>>> ownership of
>>>> data (with the funder? the researcher? the speaker? the community?) b)
>>>> what
>>>> the author is willing to write up and give out publicly. Supplementary
>>>> data
>>>> supplied for published papers is a good example - that doesn't
>>>> necessarily
>>>> need to be locked within the publishers domain, and often isn't, but can
>>>> be
>>>> used in it's own right by future researchers. Methodology is a case
>>>> where if
>>>> we come at it from a pedagogical angle, it makes more sense for people
>>>> to
>>>> give their knowledge away - for the sake of students and prestige is
>>>> enough
>>>> of a reason to give away what are, after all, not that important trade
>>>> secrets. I suspect that anything involving 'intent' will be trickier.
>>>> Some presentations on this would be great, I feel.
>>> Yes indeed! Also it would be great if someone was willing to create a
>>> stub for this on the OKF ideas page - so that others can provide
>>> input, etc:
>>>
>>> http://ideas.okfn.org/
>>>
>>>> Oh - I'm new. My name is Richard Littauer, graduated MA Linguistics from
>>>> Edinburgh in two weeks. I'm trying to see if I can come to Berlin,
>>>> depends
>>>> on my current employer and if they think that me talking about opening
>>>> up
>>>> ecological workflows into the public domain would be a justifiable
>>>> expense.
>>> Welcome Richard! :-)
>>>
>>> I very much hope you're able to come to OKCon. Your project sounds
>>> very interesting and I'd love to hear more about it!
>>>
>>> Have you also seen the travel bursaries?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/05/19/okcon-2011-travel-bursaries-early-bird-tickets-available/
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Cornelius Puschmann
>>>> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de>  wrote:
>>>>> Pablo,
>>>>> I find this whitepaper from (Science/Neuro/Creative)Commons to be a
>>>>> good
>>>>> starting point, at least when it comes to the legal side of things:
>>>>> http://neurocommons.org/report/data-publication.pdf
>>>>> (see also http://cyberling.org/node/31)
>>>>>
>>>>> So maybe it would be worth considering something along the lines of an
>>>>> online journal by the OKF that allows people to publish articles
>>>>> describing
>>>>> their oepn datasets, methodology for creation, intended applications,
>>>>> etc.?
>>>>> Should this be an all-purpose OKFN data journal or something discipline
>>>>> specific in your view? I agree that publishing new data should be tied
>>>>> to
>>>>> the notion of a journal/publication -- people sitting on valuable
>>>>> datasets
>>>>> will rarely make then available unless they feel it's in the form of a
>>>>> "real", citable publication.
>>>>> A colleague in communications who studies the Internet's effect on
>>>>> science
>>>>> conducted a survey recently in which he asked people (among other
>>>>> things)
>>>>> about their readiness to make data freely available. The results were
>>>>> not
>>>>> very uplifting: about 10% of the respondents would share openly, some
>>>>> with a
>>>>> password (30%), the majority won't share at all.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Cornelius
>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Pablo Mendes<pablomendes at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I would be very interested in hearing about a set of minimal
>>>>>> guidelines
>>>>>> for releasing open linguistics datasets. I am willing to do some
>>>>>> lobbying
>>>>>> with authors of datasets I use to release them more openly, but I
>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>> know what to tell them, e.g. w.r.t. licensing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also assume it would be soothing for them to hear that their efforts
>>>>>> would be credited somehow, e.g. as citations. So maybe it would be
>>>>>> worth
>>>>>> considering something along the lines of an online journal by the OKF
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> allows people to publish articles describing their oepn datasets,
>>>>>> methodology for creation, intended applications, etc.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anybody you know that could speak of things of the sort?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 28, 2011 5:50 PM, "Cornelius Puschmann"
>>>>>> <cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd love to participate in a meeting or workshop of the WG at OKCon,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> unfortunately I'll be in Australia on the 30 June/1 July. I hope to
>>>>>>> participate a bit more in the future though and will continue to
>>>>>>> advertise
>>>>>>> the group...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cornelius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>> <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sebastian Hellmann
>>>>>>>> <hellmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If more people join, we could actually make a workshop. Christian
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> give a presentation about OLiA and POWLA and I could say
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> NIF, NLP2RDF and the conversion of Wiktionary to RDF
>>>>>>>> (Cc'ing okfn-discuss too!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone interested in an open linguistics meeting at OKCon 2011?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://okcon.okfnpad.org/linguistics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think there should be a session on open linguistics at OKCon
>>>>>>>> and you'd be interested in attending, please add your name and
>>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>>> to the link above!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
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