[Open-science-nl] Negative Results Week

Faez, S. (Sanli) S.Faez at uu.nl
Wed Aug 9 08:04:26 UTC 2017


Dear All,

Sorry for replying to all. I suppose open-science enthusiasts in this list are prepared for open discussions and have implemented the necessary filter to keep the sanity of their email inboxes.

IMO, Both points raised by Rolf+Eric-Jan and Hans needs to be clarified before a campaign can be launched that is at least not controversial among the open-science activists.
Regarding the chosen term it might be that the train has left the station already, but it is clear that it is a bit misleading in some communities. For example, in physics all results (that are outcome of the critical scientific method) are valid and dictated by laws of nature, although some might be inconclusive. It is different from complex system studies that one needs a target precision to claim a discovery.

My question to Rosanne is, why didn't you directly and explicitly target the mal-practice of academic publishing in your framing, rather than the obvious outcome of the scientific method (some searches find nothing new, others are inconclusive, and that's how it should be)

Isn't the target of this campaign avoiding research waste because of publishers addiction to news and funders fetish of breakthroughs? in that case, wouldn't "unvalued science", "unsellable results" or "(concieved-as-)unpublishable results" a better term that values the actual effort in presenting solid science according to the scientific method, but blocked to be spread because of publication bias?

Having said that, as this is a very important point of discussion, I would be fully willing to participate with whatever name the campaigners choose.

with best regards
sanli



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From: Hans IJzerman [h.ijzerman at vu.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:40 AM
To: Rolf Zwaan
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Subject: Re: Negative Results Week

hi all,

I understand both Rolf and EJ's concern, but can understand the focus even when suboptimal (depending on what audience it is oriented to).

But to voice another concern: Null results/emptied filedrawers don't necessarily equate solid science. They can, but don't have to. Further and even more importantly: What's the target audience? What is the goal of this week? Is it to sway audience, funders, scientists in fields where this discussion is not going on? (and would perhaps not be the most efficient use of time to report on existing efforts re: replications, null results, prereg, OSF stuff?)

best,


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On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rolf Zwaan <rolfzwaan at gmail.com<mailto:rolfzwaan at gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree with E.J. In addition to the arguments he makes, I'm worried that at a more basic level, people will be associating open science with negative results. I like the idea of "emptying the filedrawer."

2017-08-08 23:40 GMT+02:00 Eric-Jan Wagenmakers <ej.wagenmakers at gmail.com<mailto:ej.wagenmakers at gmail.com>>:
Hi Rosanne and others,

Perhaps I am overly sensitive, but the term "negative result" is more than a little negative. Invariance is a key property of all laws of nature (take your pick), and it can be highly informative to know that something does not change (e.g., the new treatment does not cause more side-effects; increasing the speed limit from 120 to 130 km/hr does not lead to more fatal traffic casualties). I don't see any fundamental difference between a "positive" and a "negative" result -- these provide support for different statistical models, but it depends on the context what result is more informative or useful. I feel that calling them "negative results" is stigmatizing and actually confirms researchers' bias concerning their supposedly limited value. So just by picking that name you risk achieving the exact opposite of what you aim to achieve.

Either "empty-your-file-drawer week" or "present-your-unpublished-work week" target the core problem more clearly. Just some thoughts, I might be completely off.

Cheers,
E.J.

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On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Rosanne Hertzberger <rosanne.hertzberger at gmail.com<mailto:rosanne.hertzberger at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

firstly I apologize for using this email-list. I will not send any other emails, but I am looking to reach as many people interested in Open Science and thought with this I might be hitting the bulls eye.

I am a writer at NRC Handelsblad and a microbiologist at the VU, I post my science at www.reblab.org<http://www.reblab.org> using an Open Kitchen Science approach. I have a question for you:
In order to further promote Open Science I want to organize a "Negative Results Week" or #NegResWeek. A social media campaign in which we try to get as many scientists as possible (from all fields, all countries) to post a Negative Result on an open science platform (BioRxiv, FigShare, Zenodo etc) in a given week. Of course it is a legitimate question what a negative result actually is, and whether it even exists, and these answers are different depending on the field, but to me a negative result is when you conclude "A has nothing to with B", "this protocol does not work", "this theory cannot be proven". Perhaps the most negative side about a negative result is when it remains unpublished. Perfectly sound science going to waste because it is unfortunately not deemed worthy of time/effort/money to publish.

I mentioned this a few times at meetings and luckily several health funds (Reumafonds, Hartstichting, more to come) showed their interest. Like many people, they too want science to become more transparent, more accessible, and more efficient, which is in the interest of the patient and the general public and ultimately also for science itself. They are putting together a small budget to hopefully make this event happen. My job is to estimate how much interest there is from the science community and see if we can get some critical mass to make NegResWeek a success. So my first questions is: would you like to participate in this Negative Results Week? And second: would you be willing to make a short video, just using your smartphone, with your name, institute, field and the words "I am participating in Negative Results Week" with a few remarks explaining why. The goal is to launch the initiative with a website full of researchers who will participate, to entice others to join in as well and get their first taste of Open Science.

I would really appreciate your feedback, your thoughts and hopefully, your footage.

best regards,

Rosanne Hertzberger



2017-04-03 17:19 GMT+02:00 Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) <j.bosman at uu.nl<mailto:j.bosman at uu.nl>>:
Please excuse me: the Delft meeting is on Monday the 29th of May….

Jeroen

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Subject: report frrom Open Science meeting in Tilburg 20170331

Dear all,

Just wanted to let you know that the informal Open Science meetup in Tilburg last Friday was a lively, provided useful ideas, exchange of visions, feedback on the National Plan Open Science and more. Read all about it in the report we created in the etherpad:

https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/open-science-tilburg

By the way, on Friday 29th of May there is a larger Open Science meeting in Delft, probably 10AM-4PM. Please save the date. More info will follow soon, via the Open Science NL discussion list (https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science-nl) and other channels.

Groet,
Jeroen

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From: C.H.J. Hartgerink [mailto:C.H.J.Hartgerink at uvt.nl]
Sent: maandag 27 februari 2017 12:53
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Cc: 'open-science-nl at lists.okfn.org<mailto:open-science-nl at lists.okfn.org>'; Kramer, B.M.R. (Bianca)
Subject: Invitation for (informal) open science meetup


Dear all,


Following our previous emails on Open Science and your enthusiasm for an informal meeting for researchers that are currently actively involved in Open Science, we have now planned a date and time for such a meeting:


Friday March 31, 14:00-17:00 Cobbenhagengebouw, location C 186 Ruth First room, Tilburg University<https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=tilburg%20university#map=17/51.56244/5.04679>


During this meeting, we want to provide the opportunity to share your personal experiences, ideas and concrete initiatives around various aspects of Open Science, including (but certainly not limited to) preregistration, data/code sharing & re-use, preprints, reproducibility, open peer review models, societal outreach and assessment alternatives.


Furthermore, we hope to discuss existing barriers and obstacles to a more widespread adoption of Open Science among researchers, and various steps that could be taken (either top-down or bottom-up) to help overcome these.


Finally, we want to compare your ideas and action points for next steps to the goals and ambitions stated in the National Plan Open Science<http://www.openscience.nl> (signed by VSNU, KNAW, NWO, among other parties) and beyond. We can  see how these ideas and action points align or complement each other, and what your advice to NPOS would be in how to reach out to researchers in general.


If there are any other points you feel are important to discuss at this meeting, please let us know. The programme is flexible, everybody gets the chance to take the floor, and we foremost want the meeting to be useful for you. Needless to say, please bring your devices if you wish to show or demonstrate something.


We hope to see many of you in Tilburg on March 31. Please confirm your participation by replying to this email, so we can plan some coffee, tea, and snacks. If you know of any other Open Science enthusiasts who might be interested to attend, we encourage you to send on this invitation. The maximal number of people we can accommodate is 30.


Kind regards,

Chris Hartgerink

Jeroen Bosman
Bianca Kramer
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Subject: Open Science and the National Plan OS

Dear all,


Thank you for the many encouraging replies we received to our message on Open Science and the National Plan Open Science<https://www.openscience.nl/> signing and presentation later today. Most of you support a meeting in the near future of researchers that are engaged in Open Science.

We hope to have a chance to talk with those of you who are able to make it to the signing ceremony today, and will contact all of you to discuss timing and programme of a meeting. And of course we very much welcome anyone willing to help in arranging the meeting.

We will also talk to NPOS platform people to see what they are up to and align (but not slow down) actions.


Kind regards, looking forward to meet you,


Bianca Kramer (@MsPhelps) & Jeroen Bosman (@jeroenbosman)

both at Utrecht University Library

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