[open-science] Launch of the Panton Principles for Open Data in Science + Is It Open Data?

Peter Murray-Rust pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Sat Feb 20 12:15:05 UTC 2010

This is an extremely valid point. My understanding is that it best covered
by "community norms". At present I see the situation as:
* any data which is "Open Data" is necessarily publicly visible so there is
no additional release of information.
* it is therefore important for an author to unedrstand the community norms
relating to the release of this information
* data in public view are tecnically crawable and analysable by bots. It is
true that some bot-owners may be dissauaded by the current lack of clarity
on rights and hold back from indexing this. However it is likley that this
is already repeatedly crawled by large search engines (some of which
currently crawl private information as well).

So I don't see that Open Data per se gives any less privacy. Of course if a
community or author applies Open Data to material that is normally regarded
as private this is a problem. But that breach of privacy is not really
dependent on Open Data - but a poorly thought out publication policy.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:

> After posting on the principles in some mailing lists, I got replies
> from the social sciences/ humanities/ medical corner in which concerns
> were raised about the lack of definition of "data" in the principles,
> and about a possible lack of applicability to their fields,
> essentially because of privacy concerns for subjects/ patients.
> Perhaps you can address these points when you talk about the subject?
> Thanks!
> Daniel
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > I've now met Lisa - we've had lunch with Lee (also copied). The good news
> is
> > that there will probably be 2 recordings of this - one routed through MS
> and
> > UWash and the other an independent video stream by an enthusiast (whose
> name
> > I'll post when I have it). I think this is a seminal meeting from which
> both
> > SC and OKF take considerable credit and I'm hoping we can get it widely
> > reported ...  I bounced this off Lisa at lunch. Anyone with friendly
> science
> > journalists is welcome to let them know.
> >
> > Cameron and I will divvy up the Panton material - I will also show
> IsItOpen
> > but don't have time to make any requests during the talk. However I had
> > earlier tried it out on a friendly publisher and got a positive reply.
> >
> > There'll be a good physical attendence. I haven't asked but I assume it
> will
> > be tweeted
> >
> > P.
> >
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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