[open-science] Open Science Microformats/Pattern languages? was Re: Launch of the Panton Principles for Open Data in Science + Is It Open Data?
jeanclaude.bradley at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 00:56:09 UTC 2010
We added this CC0 logo and license
<a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/"
<img src="http://i.creativecommons.org/l/zero/1.0/88x31.png" border="0"
to the nav bar on the ONSC wiki
and to the results of any solubility search:
Does this meet the requirements for machine readability of CC0 intent?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Cameron Neylon
<cameron.neylon at stfc.ac.uk>wrote:
> I will be difficult and agree with both John and Peter :-)
> I think we need two things. Some very simple instructions and/or a service
> for quickly generating the relevant graphic(s) and markup. Text
> on the PP page and knock up a web service somewhere else? The key is to
> it as easy as possible and to not confuse people with issues of the
> difference between buttons, legal waivers, and badges.
> Secondly to look at where we could start baking this into processes to
> provide good examples of practice. Is it for example possible to (as an
> option of course) bake a licence into ATOM feeds in Clarion for instance? I
> was talking with Andrew from the SAGE project yesterday about capturing
> processes and release data formats so maybe this is another good place
> we could bake the addition of appropriate buttons and legal terms into the
> analysis process?
> Also agree with John that avoiding letters in circles is a good idea but
> a slightly different reason. The circle references copyright and that is
> reference I think we want to avoid as far as possible. As an aside I find
> interesting that everyone makes the connection between "letters in circle"
> and creative commons reference rather than to copyright. This is great
> progress to me!
> On 24/02/2010 02:21, "Jonathan Gray" <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
> > I agree with John that in order to be compliant (as stated in the
> > principles) data publishers should use a legal tool like CC0 or PDDL
> > or have some other explicit legal statement about the data. Just
> > linking to the Panton Principles is not sufficient to show that data
> > is open. It is equivalent someone wearing a badge saying 'I support
> > vegetarianism' - which does not say whether or not the person wearing
> > it is a vegetarian.
> > Perhaps it could be useful to have a brief guide to making data open
> > using existing legal tools on Panton Principles site? I.e. CC0/PDDL?
> > (Which is of course not to say that there aren't other ways of putting
> > things in public domain...)
> > All the best,
> > Jonathan
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Egon Willighagen
> > <egon.willighagen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:31 AM, John Wilbanks
> >> <wilbanks at creativecommons.org> wrote:
> >>> Sorry to be pedantic here, but if you do not use a legal tool, you are
> >>> not in compliance with the principles. In the absence of a legal tool
> >>> the data *are not open* by default, especially in the uk and the eu.
> >>> These principles will mean very little if the data they attach to are
> >>> not legally open.
> >> I have seen people claim data as OpenData... but I have too been so so
> >> comfortable using this data, because of the lack of standardized
> >> waiver (/license)... I endorse PP because it indeed strongly
> >> encourages to do that.
> >> I would also say that just claiming OpenData without waiver is not
> >> quite in compliance with the principles... at least, that's how I read
> >> them.
> >> Egon
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