[open-science] Summary of today's meeting

[Jean-Claude Bradley]

Thanks Greg - for the summary and link to your presentation too!

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg at grossmeier.net> wrote:

> Hello Group,
>
> Here is the agenda and summary from today's meeting:
> http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/science/meetings/20100602
>
> Reproduced below for your convenience (though no guarantee on
> formatting).
>
> Best,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Agenda
>
>    * CKAN for open data in science
>          o Chemistry data pilot -- what metadata
>          o Need for discovery tools? E.g. to fit with existing workflows
>    * Summaries in different domains. One or two - e.g. chemistry,
> biogenetics, or environmental, ...
>          o Who are the key people in different areas...
>    * Panton Principles - what next? building consensus: e.g. Wellcome,
> NSF
>    * Panton discussions - podcast / interview
>    * Guest blog posts - detail but also for non-specialists...
>    * Competitions
>          o e.g.:
> http://www.biomedcentral.com/researchawards/otherawards/
>    * Logo / buttons
>    *
>
>
> http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2010-February/000170.html
>    * Interns/grad students call for participation (what could they work
> on?)
>    * International open data in science event? Two day
> workshop/unconference? E.g. in 2011-2012?
>
> Summary
>
>    * Searchable for science data
>    * Biographical data on science 19th century
>
> Chemistry Data Discovery Process
>
>    * many use paid databases
>    * growing movement for freely accessible information
>          o Many people coming through wikipedia or google search
>    * Getting ways to have Google index more information
>          o But google might not do chemistry specific data (too small
> market)
>    * Is there a need for specific basic chemistry metadata set?
>          o Metadata might not really be the problem
>          o Chemistry is very structure centric, so searching by
> structures is needed (by wholes or fragments)
>    * pointers from wikipedia to CKAN for references?
>          o but WP is not a place for lists (actively discouraged)
>    * workshop on finding opendata in chemistry? next steps, etc
>          o Participants: send to blueobelisk list and the Chemistry WP
> group
>          o Martin Walker (Wikipedia), Blue Obelisk List (Egon
> Willighagen, Noel O'Boyle)
>    * getting participation from the people who submitted the datasets
>          o wrt format (xml, rdf)
>    * Can we provide the equivalent of Open Shakespeare for undergrad
> chemistry students?
>    * Existing Chemistry packages:
>          o
> http://ckan.net/package/search?q=chemistry&search=Search+Packages+%C2%BB
>          o  http://ckan.net/group/chemistry
>    *
>
>      ChemSpider:
>          You have limited rights in this regard. You can only assemble a
> database of 5000 structures or less, and their associated properties,
> from our database without our permission. You can download up to 1000
> structures per day from the website. Please contact us at
> feedbackATchemspiderDOTcom to request an extension outside this
> constraint. These constraints are under regular review so please feel
> free to engage us in conversation.
>
>          http://www.chemspider.com/FAQ.aspx
>
> Panton Principles Concensus
>
>    * isitopen? use
>    * go to the OA publishers to get stated support (start with the DOAJ)
>    * Get grad students to lead the charge to contact publishers to adopt
> the principles (or support of)
>          o Egon
>    * Blogosphere / Friendfeed
>
> Panton Discussions
>
>    * get the geographically close people first (eg: Mark Patterson from
> PLoS)
>          o  http://www.plos.org/about/people/publishing.php#mpatterson
>    * google docs with lists of people to include
>          o shoot for 3 people for half an hour
>    * Great place for grad students/interns participation
>          o recording, coordination, editing, publishing, creating the "I
> <3 PP" button
>
> Logo
>
>    * Get the logo discussion going again on the list
>    * do a "I Support the Panton Principles" button
>
> Unconference for Data
>
>    * Wellcome support? JISC? RIN? EBI? Bio Med Central? Shuttleworth?
>    * Main (Open)Data events:
>          o Open Access-related meetings
>    * Time frame: Fall 2011. September.
>
>
> Report on "Archive '10 NSF Workshop on Archiving Experiments to Raise
> Scientific Standards"
>
> Perhaps of interest to the group, last week I attended the above workshop
> at the computer science department at University of Utah. Details at the
> workshop web site http://users.emulab.net/trac/archive10/ The
> presentation I gave at the workshop is at http://punkish.org/651
>
>
> --
> |       Greg Grossmeier |
> | http://grossmeier.net |
>
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