[open-science] Summary of today's meeting
Greg Grossmeier
greg at grossmeier.net
Wed Jun 2 20:31:10 UTC 2010
That was P. Kishor's presenation, not mine.
But you're welcome. ;)
Greg
<quoting name="Jean-Claude Bradley" date="2010-06-02" time="15:31:25 -0400">
> Thanks Greg - for the summary and link to your presentation too!
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg at grossmeier.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > Here is the agenda and summary from today's meeting:
> > http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/science/meetings/20100602
> >
> > Reproduced below for your convenience (though no guarantee on
> > formatting).
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > Agenda
> >
> > * CKAN for open data in science
> > o Chemistry data pilot -- what metadata
> > o Need for discovery tools? E.g. to fit with existing workflows
> > * Summaries in different domains. One or two - e.g. chemistry,
> > biogenetics, or environmental, ...
> > o Who are the key people in different areas...
> > * Panton Principles - what next? building consensus: e.g. Wellcome,
> > NSF
> > * Panton discussions - podcast / interview
> > * Guest blog posts - detail but also for non-specialists...
> > * Competitions
> > o e.g.:
> > http://www.biomedcentral.com/researchawards/otherawards/
> > * Logo / buttons
> > *
> >
> >
> > http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2010-February/000170.html
> > * Interns/grad students call for participation (what could they work
> > on?)
> > * International open data in science event? Two day
> > workshop/unconference? E.g. in 2011-2012?
> >
> > Summary
> >
> > * Searchable for science data
> > * Biographical data on science 19th century
> >
> > Chemistry Data Discovery Process
> >
> > * many use paid databases
> > * growing movement for freely accessible information
> > o Many people coming through wikipedia or google search
> > * Getting ways to have Google index more information
> > o But google might not do chemistry specific data (too small
> > market)
> > * Is there a need for specific basic chemistry metadata set?
> > o Metadata might not really be the problem
> > o Chemistry is very structure centric, so searching by
> > structures is needed (by wholes or fragments)
> > * pointers from wikipedia to CKAN for references?
> > o but WP is not a place for lists (actively discouraged)
> > * workshop on finding opendata in chemistry? next steps, etc
> > o Participants: send to blueobelisk list and the Chemistry WP
> > group
> > o Martin Walker (Wikipedia), Blue Obelisk List (Egon
> > Willighagen, Noel O'Boyle)
> > * getting participation from the people who submitted the datasets
> > o wrt format (xml, rdf)
> > * Can we provide the equivalent of Open Shakespeare for undergrad
> > chemistry students?
> > * Existing Chemistry packages:
> > o
> > http://ckan.net/package/search?q=chemistry&search=Search+Packages+%C2%BB
> > o http://ckan.net/group/chemistry
> > *
> >
> > ChemSpider:
> > You have limited rights in this regard. You can only assemble a
> > database of 5000 structures or less, and their associated properties,
> > from our database without our permission. You can download up to 1000
> > structures per day from the website. Please contact us at
> > feedbackATchemspiderDOTcom to request an extension outside this
> > constraint. These constraints are under regular review so please feel
> > free to engage us in conversation.
> >
> > http://www.chemspider.com/FAQ.aspx
> >
> > Panton Principles Concensus
> >
> > * isitopen? use
> > * go to the OA publishers to get stated support (start with the DOAJ)
> > * Get grad students to lead the charge to contact publishers to adopt
> > the principles (or support of)
> > o Egon
> > * Blogosphere / Friendfeed
> >
> > Panton Discussions
> >
> > * get the geographically close people first (eg: Mark Patterson from
> > PLoS)
> > o http://www.plos.org/about/people/publishing.php#mpatterson
> > * google docs with lists of people to include
> > o shoot for 3 people for half an hour
> > * Great place for grad students/interns participation
> > o recording, coordination, editing, publishing, creating the "I
> > <3 PP" button
> >
> > Logo
> >
> > * Get the logo discussion going again on the list
> > * do a "I Support the Panton Principles" button
> >
> > Unconference for Data
> >
> > * Wellcome support? JISC? RIN? EBI? Bio Med Central? Shuttleworth?
> > * Main (Open)Data events:
> > o Open Access-related meetings
> > * Time frame: Fall 2011. September.
> >
> >
> > Report on "Archive '10 NSF Workshop on Archiving Experiments to Raise
> > Scientific Standards"
> >
> > Perhaps of interest to the group, last week I attended the above workshop
> > at the computer science department at University of Utah. Details at the
> > workshop web site http://users.emulab.net/trac/archive10/ The
> > presentation I gave at the workshop is at http://punkish.org/651
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> Drexel University
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