[open-science] github/R stack for the nomadic researcher

Wed Apr 11 14:48:47 UTC 2012

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
<jessy at jessykate.com>wrote:

> do people think a separate instance of ckan would be useful for the open
> data/science community at large? or is it an issue of marketing what we
> have (thedatahub) better?
>
> if the former, i'm happy to help w system administration, but it's not
> obvious to me... curious what others think!
>
>
I think we should have a separate science-datahub.. I showed datahub to the
European Horizon2020 today - very briefly..

> jessy
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Mark Wainwright <mark.wainwright at okfn.org
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes indeed! Perhaps I could mention this submission that I threw
>> together for the Open Repositories conference OR12
>> (http://or2012.ed.ac.uk):
>>
>> http://ckan.okfnpad.org/or12
>>
>> My idea was that we could boot a new instance of ckan specialised for
>> research papers (slightly facetiously called thepaperhub.org), but I
>> don't know how easy this is, or whether there would be enthusiasm from
>> someone technically literate to keep it running. (Volunteers?)
>> Meantime thedatahub.org is a good option.
>>
>> I gather OR12 will be accepting/rejecting submissions on 16 April,
>> incidentally.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 2 April 2012 20:01, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>> jessy at jessykate.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> i agree on the dataforge front...  git doesn't handle large files well,
>> >> and figshare, buzzdata etc. seem to be mostly for visual or tabular
>> data
>> >> sets. out of curiosity, as i'm starting to learn about thedatahub.com,
>> >
>> >
>> > thedatahub.org I think
>> >
>> >>
>> >> it seems rather perfect for data set management, and even has a change
>> >> lists for data sets, groups, user pages, etc. (especially if there
>> were some
>> >> command line tools so i could "commit" changes to my data set
>> periodically
>> >> and upload them :)).
>> >>
>> >> is there a reason people find ckan/thedatahub insufficient for data
>> >> management needs? is it related to technical/features, or to peoples'
>> >> familiarity and confidence around the longevity of the site?
>> >
>> >
>> > It's history, I think. We should now be making the case for such a
>> > repository and I don't think Figshare is it. I have rather negelected
>> > datahub because the original CKAN was metadata-oriented.
>> >
>> > I'll be making the case in Europe next week that we badly need informal
>> > repositories and maybe this is the time to push the datahub?
>> >
>> > P.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom,
>> >>> This is a really valuable post. I feel your concerns directly. I have
>> >>> copied in our new Panton fellows (though I am sure they read this list
>> >>> anyway!)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche at pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [apologies for length of post, but it's a big topic]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> No apologies needed!
>> >>>
>> >>> I am giving an important presentation to  Europe "Open Infrastructures
>> >>> for Open Science" and Neelie Kroes and others will be there. I am
>> getting my
>> >>> thoughts together as I have to give the plenary that informs the rest
>> of the
>> >>> workshop. Currently my thoughts are:
>> >>>
>> >>> Europe (and the world) is losing 10 billion + in unused and restricted
>> >>> data. (I said this to Hargreaves)
>> >>> We MUST have easily accessible research repositories, probably on a
>> >>> domain basis (Dryad, Pangaea, TARDIS, etc.)
>> >>> Institutional Repos do not work for STM and never will
>> >>> Mandates are a blunt weapon and so far have little effectiveness
>> >>> Non-Commercial destroys knowledge
>> >>>
>> >>> We must give the researchers something they want. Sourceforge does
>> this
>> >>> for code. I use Sourceforge (actually now Bitbucket and Github)
>> several
>> >>> times a day. All my code is backed up, shareable, reusable, validated
>> etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> There must be a "Data forge" for Europe. Figshare was built by one
>> >>> graduate student in one year. I would give 3rd year graduate students
>> >>> funding to do this - it's a hundred times more cost effective than
>> >>> repositories.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd like to collect ideas on this llist and present them next week
>> >>> (11th). An OKF data manifesto for Open Science (in Europe) Who knows
>> what
>> >>> might come?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Peter Murray-Rust
>> >>> Reader in Molecular Informatics
>> >>> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
>> >>> University of Cambridge
>> >>> CB2 1EW, UK
>> >>> +44-1223-763069
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jessy
>> >> http://jessykate.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > Peter Murray-Rust
>> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
>> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
>> > University of Cambridge
>> > CB2 1EW, UK
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University of Cambridge
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