[open-science] [Open-access] Nature Scientific Data platform and doing science with open data

Tom Morris tfmorris at gmail.com
Sat Apr 6 22:46:17 UTC 2013

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>wrote:
>>>  If tthe scientific community (Wellcome, NIH, NSF, RCUK, etc.) is
>>> arguing for CC-BY then it's irresponsible (at best) for NPG to do otherwise.
>> Can you expand on why you believe this?
> Because I believe that in scientific publishing there is an implied
> commitment from both sides to behave in a mututally constructive manner. If
> you argue that the morals and practices of STM publishers should emulate
> banks, energy companies, etc  in trying to make as much money as possible,
> creating confusion, and offering flawed deals then I concede your argument.

Umm, I don't think I argued anything remotely close to that.  It was a
simply a question.

I don't see how working towards a mutually agreeable outcome necessarily
entails walking in lockstep and being in 100% agreement on all things.
 Everyone has different values and viewpoints, even within the scientific
community.  Look at how different the values are from funders and
researchers, or even among the researchers themselves.

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